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What lube to use while clay bar the glass/paint? #4496242
08/23/17 03:20 PM
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Hello folks,

I plan to clay bar windows and windshields before putting Rain-X. I wonder what lubricant one can use?

In future, I plan to clay bar paint as well. Is that different lube for the paint or same one can be used on glass as well as paint?

Many thanks in advance.


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Re: What lube to use while clay bar the glass/paint? [Re: MoneyJohn] #4496245
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Re: What lube to use while clay bar the glass/paint? [Re: MoneyJohn] #4496248
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I've never clayed glass but on painted surfaces water works just fine for me.

Re: What lube to use while clay bar the glass/paint? [Re: MoneyJohn] #4496249
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plain ol car wash soap. all it needs to do is keep the clay from sticking

Re: What lube to use while clay bar the glass/paint? [Re: MoneyJohn] #4496258
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I usually just use a single edge razor scraper to get the window nearly perfectly clean before treatment just like when they apply window films



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Re: What lube to use while clay bar the glass/paint? [Re: RRich] #4496262
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Originally Posted By: RRich
I've never clayed glass but on painted surfaces water works just fine for me.



Water is not slick enough. You need to use something like soap in there too. Pretty much every clay bar I've ever used says this.

I typically just take a spray bottle, fill with tap water, and put some car wash soap in there. There are clay-specific spray lubricants, too.


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Re: What lube to use while clay bar the glass/paint? [Re: MoneyJohn] #4496263
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Later on I am sure the detail experts will chime in about all the special products that are most appropriate for clay lube. I have always just used car wash soap diluted with water at approximately a 1:12 ratio. I don't have any problems that some claim regarding clay bar breakdown and I don't have any problems with paint micro marring. But, my last few Chrysler products have always seemed to have very tough paint (if they could just get everything/anything else right). I have never had to do any paint correction like so many seem to do here (knock on wood, grin).

Another difference here in Michigan is that we have copious amounts of water to waste, so we can use hundreds of gallons of water for the wash-rinse-clay-rinse cycles. Maybe the specialty products work better in arid regions.

I do my glass also and it seems to work well. I'm off my podium now. LOL Michigan has its faults, but I do appreciate the abundance of H2O.

Google "clay lube substitute" for lots of discussions.

Re: What lube to use while clay bar the glass/paint? [Re: bioburner] #4496276
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Originally Posted By: bioburner
I usually just use a single edge razor scraper to get the window nearly perfectly clean before treatment just like when they apply window films


I am going to clean rear windshield as well that has defroster built in (if thats the right description or terminology). I am not too sure how safe is using razor blade there.


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Re: What lube to use while clay bar the glass/paint? [Re: MoneyJohn] #4496292
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I use what the others say on here, a bit of car wash soap mixed with water in a spray bottle as my clay lube.

Something I noticed is you have to make sure not to use too much soap in the ratio. If you do it will glide across really well but not actually pick up any of the bonded contaminants. You just need a little so the clay doesn't hang and rip off/smear on to the paint.


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Re: What lube to use while clay bar the glass/paint? [Re: bioburner] #4496297
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Originally Posted By: bioburner
I usually just use a single edge razor scraper to get the window nearly perfectly clean before treatment just like when they apply window films


I saw a guy do that one time and the razor blade wasn't brand new and he put fine scratches all over the glass on his nice 2 door Tahoe. Made him sick.


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Re: What lube to use while clay bar the glass/paint? [Re: MoneyJohn] #4496298
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The clay bar kits I've purchased use detailing spray as the lubricant. It works well. Obviously, a lot more expensive than the soap and water approach.

Re: What lube to use while clay bar the glass/paint? [Re: AZjeff] #4496310
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Originally Posted By: AZjeff
Originally Posted By: bioburner
I usually just use a single edge razor scraper to get the window nearly perfectly clean before treatment just like when they apply window films


I saw a guy do that one time and the razor blade wasn't brand new and he put fine scratches all over the glass on his nice 2 door Tahoe. Made him sick.


Kinda like not using a two bucket system to wash a car and just cycling in more and more grit as you go:( Whats the savings of not using a fresh blade? A nickel? Same with a two bucket system

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Re: What lube to use while clay bar the glass/paint? [Re: MoneyJohn] #4496388
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Good idea. I used the Meguiars detail spray and their claybar. Also I recommend that rather than using Rain-x I'd used the Zano acrylic sealant. Lasts a long time and is perfectly optically clear. The water beads up so fine that I rarely need the wipers.

Re: What lube to use while clay bar the glass/paint? [Re: WhyMe] #4496399
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Originally Posted By: WhyMe
plain ol car wash soap. all it needs to do is keep the clay from sticking


agreed

Re: What lube to use while clay bar the glass/paint? [Re: MoneyJohn] #4496400
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He asked for which lube on BITOG and noone said M1.. LOL!

Kidding.

Meguiars quick detail is what I got in my meguiars kit. I liked it alot for that application. Be liberal with the application. I also think diluted car wash soap would work. A good slippery one like Megs Gold class. I don't know about dishwashing soap. I would not recommend a "wash and wax" mix as the wax may coat the clay and mess it up....somehow.

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