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80,000hp natural gas drive....Trent core #4495790
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Talking to a guy that I used to work with who is now into high energy rotating equipment he was talking about commissioning a 60MW turbine driven compressor...80,000hp.

https://www.energy.siemens.com/hq/pool/h...brochure-en.pdf

Gas turbine drive, based on the Trent Aero engine...

NICE !!!

Re: 80,000hp natural gas drive....Trent core [Re: Shannow] #4495792
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Nice. Haven't looked at how this compares to the LM6000.

Believe this is a three spool GT which is interesting in its own right.

Re: 80,000hp natural gas drive....Trent core [Re: Shannow] #4495821
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Yes, three spool.

I only ever played with the LM2500s back in 1990, and was on a cruise liner in January that had a pair of them.

The big big stationary GTs, like the GT26 are so far removed from the aero engines, that I'd lost track of the aero derivatives and their appications.

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Is there anything left in the UK they haven't sold of to Dieter?

Re: 80,000hp natural gas drive....Trent core [Re: Shannow] #4496032
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Aeroderivatives rule the roost!
Originally Posted By: Shannow


I only ever played with the LM2500s back in 1990, and was on a cruise liner in January that had a pair of them.

The old CF6 never dies. They're going to make LM2500s for the next fifty years.


too many cars and oil combinations to list in 150 characters or less
Re: 80,000hp natural gas drive....Trent core [Re: Shannow] #4496093
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Size, complexity, power....They're just staggering! Could you scope what one installation, ready to run @ 80MW, would cost? $30M or am I way off?

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Originally Posted By: DeepFriar
Size, complexity, power....They're just staggering! Could you scope what one installation, ready to run @ 80MW, would cost? $30M or am I way off?


Sorry. I meant 60MW as mentioned in the original post.

Re: 80,000hp natural gas drive....Trent core [Re: Shannow] #4496120
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Originally Posted By: Shannow
Yes, three spool.

I only ever played with the LM2500s back in 1990, and was on a cruise liner in January that had a pair of them.

The big big stationary GTs, like the GT26 are so far removed from the aero engines, that I'd lost track of the aero derivatives and their appications.


We build lots of ships with four of them onboard.

Re: 80,000hp natural gas drive....Trent core [Re: DeepFriar] #4496228
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Originally Posted By: DeepFriar
Originally Posted By: DeepFriar
Size, complexity, power....They're just staggering! Could you scope what one installation, ready to run @ 80MW, would cost? $30M or am I way off?


Sorry. I meant 60MW as mentioned in the original post.


Doubt you're way off. Low side though.

Re: 80,000hp natural gas drive....Trent core [Re: Shannow] #4496961
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Originally Posted By: Shannow
Yes, three spool.

I only ever played with the LM2500s back in 1990, and was on a cruise liner in January that had a pair of them.

The big big stationary GTs, like the GT26 are so far removed from the aero engines, that I'd lost track of the aero derivatives and their appications.



Are those shiny round things external burner cans (for lack of a better term due to my ignorance) like the bottle appearing cans from days of yore?

Re: 80,000hp natural gas drive....Trent core [Re: JHZR2] #4496967
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Originally Posted By: JHZR2
We build lots of ships with four of them onboard.

I had read somewhere awhile back that those installations have upwards of 100,000 HP. I bet that'll wake you up in the morning.

Re: 80,000hp natural gas drive....Trent core [Re: DeepFriar] #4497220
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Originally Posted By: DeepFriar
Originally Posted By: Shannow
Yes, three spool.

I only ever played with the LM2500s back in 1990, and was on a cruise liner in January that had a pair of them.

The big big stationary GTs, like the GT26 are so far removed from the aero engines, that I'd lost track of the aero derivatives and their appications.



Are those shiny round things external burner cans (for lack of a better term due to my ignorance) like the bottle appearing cans from days of yore?


yep

Re: 80,000hp natural gas drive....Trent core [Re: Shannow] #4499069
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More engine happiness. Worthy of hanging in a gallery.


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I consider aircraft a work art. Looking at them closely brings tears to my eyes. It is hard to believe mere mortals do the design, engineering, assembly, maintenance and piloting.


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Re: 80,000hp natural gas drive....Trent core [Re: Shannow] #4499821
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I was just thinking the other day about how the little flea spec beings that we are can contemplate the beginnings and the farthest reaches of our universe. Not that we will ever have all the answers (and that would be pretty dull) but that we are intelligent enough to ask the questions. Awesome stuff and I hope we can continue creating things like aircraft and spacecraft without killing ourselves. "What a piece of work is man" said Will Shakespeare. And no accident I say. Cheers CT8, I'd like to visit your neck of the woods one day.

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