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Checking dip stick #4495305
08/22/17 01:58 PM
08/22/17 01:58 PM
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Duffyjr Offline OP
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Was just reading the post about checking oil on first or second pull and want to see what every does with small engines.

My Toro has a yellow dip stick and you have to unscrew it and wipe it off and reinsert but not screw it in to get a reading. First, with clean oil the yellow is hard to read, have to tilt it in the light just right. Second is it never reads the same on both sides, one side always has oil higher than the other no matter how I put it in even cold so not sure where to keep the level, somewhere in between I suppose.

My old MTD snowblower has a metal dip stick and is very easy to read, they should all be like this.

My new Toro snowblower has a little dip stick but it's at the base of the motor so all you have to do is fill it until it starts coming out a bit. I remember back in the day all mowers were like this.


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Re: Checking dip stick [Re: Duffyjr] #4495334
08/22/17 02:39 PM
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I have a Murray with a Briggs Twin. The oil will creep up the dipstick when stopped so I have to wipe it first and then re-check. It has a hole at full and one at the add mark and is easy to read.

Re: Checking dip stick [Re: Duffyjr] #4495337
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Ugh I hate that...

The method of "insert but not screw-in" doesn't seem very accurate to me in the first place.

I feel like different people would get different results based on how exactly the cap was sitting


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Re: Checking dip stick [Re: Duffyjr] #4495380
08/22/17 03:35 PM
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I just did this on a Kohler with a yellow dipstick.
Even 15w50 flings off as you are pulling the dipstick up to read. As you said you need to quickly tilt it. You would think we could get a sight glass view like we have on metal lathes etc. It would be nice.

Re: Checking dip stick [Re: Duffyjr] #4495413
08/22/17 04:04 PM
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Open the dipstick then stick your finger in the hole. Use the calculated eyeball. How we used to check oil in OPE way back when.

Re: Checking dip stick [Re: eljefino] #4495594
08/22/17 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted By: eljefino
Open the dipstick then stick your finger in the hole. Use the calculated eyeball. How we used to check oil in OPE way back when.


Wash your hands first. After is optional, unless you object to skin cancer on principle.

Re: Checking dip stick [Re: Duffyjr] #4495733
08/22/17 11:01 PM
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Quote:
The method of "insert but not screw-in" doesn't seem very accurate to me in the first place.

Common on Japanese engines and Chinese clones I think.
I got the oil at the proper level then screwed the dipstick in and
filed a small notch at that level so no more fiddling around with
"insert but not screw-in".


There's no such thing as:
Too big of a battery,
Too large of a gas tank,
or too loud of a horn,
or too bright headlights.
Re: Checking dip stick [Re: CELICA_XX] #4496695
08/24/17 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted By: CELICA_XX
Ugh I hate that...

The method of "insert but not screw-in" doesn't seem very accurate to me in the first place.

I feel like different people would get different results based on how exactly the cap was sitting


Yeah, and if you're like my brother and don't pay attention on how to check the oil you'll seize your engine. My brother had a Honda mower and was screwing in the dipstick to check the oil- well the Honda is no longer.

Re: Checking dip stick [Re: RobM] #4496824
08/24/17 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted By: RobM
Yeah, and if you're like my brother and don't pay attention on how to check the oil you'll seize your engine. My brother had a Honda mower and was screwing in the dipstick to check the oil- well the Honda is no longer.


You think the engine seized because the oil level was maybe 1/2" too high?

Re: Checking dip stick [Re: Duffyjr] #4496829
08/24/17 08:46 AM
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Too low. Screwing it in gave false reading that level was ok, when actually low.

Re: Checking dip stick [Re: RobM] #4496851
08/24/17 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted By: RobM
Too low. Screwing it in gave false reading that level was ok, when actually low.


Ah, yes. I am an idiot.

However, if the oil was being checked and was on the stick with it screwed in, that is enough oil for the engine to live on.

Re: Checking dip stick [Re: Duffyjr] #4496864
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He may have been running it that way for a while before it seized.

Re: Checking dip stick [Re: Duffyjr] #4496923
08/24/17 11:13 AM
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Stupid question: How would you check the oil level on a Toro 20016 Recycler with a Tecumseh engine? I've been screwing it in to check the oil level that way. The manual only states to "fully install the dipstick".

Re: Checking dip stick [Re: Duffyjr] #4496929
08/24/17 11:21 AM
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I would: Unscrew, wipe off, screw it in all the way, unscrew, check. Sounds like you're doing it correctly.

Last edited by RobM; 08/24/17 11:21 AM.
Re: Checking dip stick [Re: boom10ful] #4497161
08/24/17 03:58 PM
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Duffyjr Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: boom10ful
Stupid question: How would you check the oil level on a Toro 20016 Recycler with a Tecumseh engine? I've been screwing it in to check the oil level that way. The manual only states to "fully install the dipstick".


My old blower has a Tecumseh and in the owners manual it does say to screw it in. That one screws in so far that if you weren't screwing it in to check the lever it would be way off, probably close to an inch.


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