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#4495305 - 08/22/17 02:58 PM Checking dip stick
Duffyjr Offline


Registered: 01/13/16
Posts: 506
Loc: Nebraska
Was just reading the post about checking oil on first or second pull and want to see what every does with small engines.

My Toro has a yellow dip stick and you have to unscrew it and wipe it off and reinsert but not screw it in to get a reading. First, with clean oil the yellow is hard to read, have to tilt it in the light just right. Second is it never reads the same on both sides, one side always has oil higher than the other no matter how I put it in even cold so not sure where to keep the level, somewhere in between I suppose.

My old MTD snowblower has a metal dip stick and is very easy to read, they should all be like this.

My new Toro snowblower has a little dip stick but it's at the base of the motor so all you have to do is fill it until it starts coming out a bit. I remember back in the day all mowers were like this.
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#4495334 - 08/22/17 03:39 PM Re: Checking dip stick [Re: Duffyjr]
wayne50 Offline


Registered: 06/03/05
Posts: 78
Loc: alabama
I have a Murray with a Briggs Twin. The oil will creep up the dipstick when stopped so I have to wipe it first and then re-check. It has a hole at full and one at the add mark and is easy to read.

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#4495337 - 08/22/17 03:44 PM Re: Checking dip stick [Re: Duffyjr]
CELICA_XX Offline


Registered: 11/28/08
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Loc: Oklahoma
Ugh I hate that...

The method of "insert but not screw-in" doesn't seem very accurate to me in the first place.

I feel like different people would get different results based on how exactly the cap was sitting
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#4495380 - 08/22/17 04:35 PM Re: Checking dip stick [Re: Duffyjr]
AirgunSavant Offline


Registered: 07/22/15
Posts: 3772
Loc: MD
I just did this on a Kohler with a yellow dipstick.
Even 15w50 flings off as you are pulling the dipstick up to read. As you said you need to quickly tilt it. You would think we could get a sight glass view like we have on metal lathes etc. It would be nice.

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#4495413 - 08/22/17 05:04 PM Re: Checking dip stick [Re: Duffyjr]
eljefino Offline


Registered: 06/15/03
Posts: 32635
Loc: ME
Open the dipstick then stick your finger in the hole. Use the calculated eyeball. How we used to check oil in OPE way back when.

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#4495594 - 08/22/17 08:54 PM Re: Checking dip stick [Re: eljefino]
Ducked Offline


Registered: 10/25/12
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Loc: Taiwan
Originally Posted By: eljefino
Open the dipstick then stick your finger in the hole. Use the calculated eyeball. How we used to check oil in OPE way back when.


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#4495733 - 08/23/17 12:01 AM Re: Checking dip stick [Re: Duffyjr]
dwendt44 Offline


Registered: 05/17/06
Posts: 3968
Loc: Central Wisconsin
Quote:
The method of "insert but not screw-in" doesn't seem very accurate to me in the first place.

Common on Japanese engines and Chinese clones I think.
I got the oil at the proper level then screwed the dipstick in and
filed a small notch at that level so no more fiddling around with
"insert but not screw-in".
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#4496695 - 08/24/17 07:37 AM Re: Checking dip stick [Re: CELICA_XX]
RobM Offline


Registered: 08/23/17
Posts: 25
Loc: Cleveland, Ohio, USA
Originally Posted By: CELICA_XX
Ugh I hate that...

The method of "insert but not screw-in" doesn't seem very accurate to me in the first place.

I feel like different people would get different results based on how exactly the cap was sitting


Yeah, and if you're like my brother and don't pay attention on how to check the oil you'll seize your engine. My brother had a Honda mower and was screwing in the dipstick to check the oil- well the Honda is no longer.

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#4496824 - 08/24/17 09:39 AM Re: Checking dip stick [Re: RobM]
Lenny5160 Offline


Registered: 08/22/16
Posts: 27
Loc: Minnesota
Originally Posted By: RobM
Yeah, and if you're like my brother and don't pay attention on how to check the oil you'll seize your engine. My brother had a Honda mower and was screwing in the dipstick to check the oil- well the Honda is no longer.


You think the engine seized because the oil level was maybe 1/2" too high?

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#4496829 - 08/24/17 09:46 AM Re: Checking dip stick [Re: Duffyjr]
RobM Offline


Registered: 08/23/17
Posts: 25
Loc: Cleveland, Ohio, USA
Too low. Screwing it in gave false reading that level was ok, when actually low.

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#4496851 - 08/24/17 10:08 AM Re: Checking dip stick [Re: RobM]
Lenny5160 Offline


Registered: 08/22/16
Posts: 27
Loc: Minnesota
Originally Posted By: RobM
Too low. Screwing it in gave false reading that level was ok, when actually low.


Ah, yes. I am an idiot.

However, if the oil was being checked and was on the stick with it screwed in, that is enough oil for the engine to live on.

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#4496864 - 08/24/17 10:32 AM Re: Checking dip stick [Re: Duffyjr]
RobM Offline


Registered: 08/23/17
Posts: 25
Loc: Cleveland, Ohio, USA
He may have been running it that way for a while before it seized.

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#4496923 - 08/24/17 12:13 PM Re: Checking dip stick [Re: Duffyjr]
boom10ful Offline


Registered: 01/17/17
Posts: 128
Loc: California
Stupid question: How would you check the oil level on a Toro 20016 Recycler with a Tecumseh engine? I've been screwing it in to check the oil level that way. The manual only states to "fully install the dipstick".

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#4496929 - 08/24/17 12:21 PM Re: Checking dip stick [Re: Duffyjr]
RobM Offline


Registered: 08/23/17
Posts: 25
Loc: Cleveland, Ohio, USA
I would: Unscrew, wipe off, screw it in all the way, unscrew, check. Sounds like you're doing it correctly.


Edited by RobM (08/24/17 12:21 PM)

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#4497161 - 08/24/17 04:58 PM Re: Checking dip stick [Re: boom10ful]
Duffyjr Offline


Registered: 01/13/16
Posts: 506
Loc: Nebraska
Originally Posted By: boom10ful
Stupid question: How would you check the oil level on a Toro 20016 Recycler with a Tecumseh engine? I've been screwing it in to check the oil level that way. The manual only states to "fully install the dipstick".


My old blower has a Tecumseh and in the owners manual it does say to screw it in. That one screws in so far that if you weren't screwing it in to check the lever it would be way off, probably close to an inch.
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