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#4495216 - 08/22/17 01:18 PM What year did the Civic get a timing chain?
grampi Offline


Registered: 10/08/06
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If ever?

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#4495229 - 08/22/17 01:35 PM Re: What year did the Civic get a timing chain? [Re: grampi]
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Speaking of,why is Honda still using a belt on their V6? Isn't everyone else using chains now?
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#4495232 - 08/22/17 01:37 PM Re: What year did the Civic get a timing chain? [Re: grampi]
NoNameJoe Offline


Registered: 06/03/15
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The R18 engine used starting in the 2006-2011 (8th generation) which I own, uses a timing chain. The 7th generation right before uses the D17 engine which uses a timing belt. I assume the 8th is the first time they switched, all subsequent generations 8th and onward use timing chains. The last one to use a timing belt was 2005 Civic, first one to use timing chain is 2006 Civic.

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#4495233 - 08/22/17 01:37 PM Re: What year did the Civic get a timing chain? [Re: grampi]
cpayne5 Offline


Registered: 12/28/05
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2006+ with the R18s. The previous generation SIs had K20s (chains), also, but the regular LX/DX/EX had belts. I think that era Hybrid Civic also had a chain.

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#4495254 - 08/22/17 02:02 PM Re: What year did the Civic get a timing chain? [Re: grampi]
grampi Offline


Registered: 10/08/06
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Thanks! Are the '06 and newer ones pretty reliable?

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#4495260 - 08/22/17 02:07 PM Re: What year did the Civic get a timing chain? [Re: grampi]
NoNameJoe Offline


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As in what? The timing components or the car overall?

I have an 09 that I maintain religiously and have had no issues, except for the passenger side airbag recall and the idiot kid who did it messing everything up along the way.

Some of the 2006 to early 2009 had an issue with the aluminum short blocks cracking in specific locations due to weak casting. Honda extended the warranties on those to ten years with no mileage limit (TSB 10-048) provided the car has a clean title (not salvage). I have not had the issue and mine is in the early 2009 batch to my knowledge.

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#4495264 - 08/22/17 02:12 PM Re: What year did the Civic get a timing chain? [Re: NoNameJoe]
grampi Offline


Registered: 10/08/06
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Originally Posted By: NoNameJoe
As in what? The timing components or the car overall?

I have an 09 that I maintain religiously and have had no issues, except for the passenger side airbag recall and the idiot kid who did it messing everything up along the way.

Some of the 2006 to early 2009 had an issue with the aluminum short blocks cracking in specific locations due to weak casting. Honda extended the warranties on those to ten years with no mileage limit (TSB 10-048). I have not had the issue and mine is in the early 2009 batch to my knowledge.


The reason I'm asking is because I'm looking at buying an '09. I'm usually a Corolla person, but I would also consider a Civic...I have always liked the generation that began in '06...

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#4495267 - 08/22/17 02:14 PM Re: What year did the Civic get a timing chain? [Re: grampi]
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If that 2009 was built later in the year it has the updated block which is very good. You can use the VIN to find out.

The 09's have a lot of nice updates over the 06-08. They look nicer. I have a 2010 and my wife has a 2008. Great cars!


Edited by 2010Civic (08/22/17 02:15 PM)
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#4495272 - 08/22/17 02:15 PM Re: What year did the Civic get a timing chain? [Re: grampi]
NoNameJoe Offline


Registered: 06/03/15
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I'd say go for it if it's an 09. It certainly has my seal of approval. I drive it all the time, haven't had any issues and work needed other than the necessary stuff (brake, lube and filter changes).

I live in New York too and for a car this old it has startlingly little rust on the underside, compared to cars I've seen with subframes rotted through, but that might be due to how I hose it down often. The exhaust system itself, I don't know what they make it out of (stainless?) but there's also very little rust, just heat discoloration and all of the fasteners down the whole system come out nice and easy.

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#4495277 - 08/22/17 02:20 PM Re: What year did the Civic get a timing chain? [Re: grampi]
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Registered: 08/12/15
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Originally Posted By: grampi
Thanks! Are the '06 and newer ones pretty reliable?


Cracked blocks. https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/news...ivics/index.htm

The 2008 Civic that I service has bad peeling paint. Block not cracked on it, and it has been very reliable for the owner. In 1.5 years, it has gone through one set of brakes, a new starter, and I just had to change the brake light switch assembly yesterday, which only cost $6.99 at NAPA. The threaded portion broke because the whole assembly is nothing but plastic.
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#4495321 - 08/22/17 03:15 PM Re: What year did the Civic get a timing chain? [Re: grampi]
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Registered: 07/27/13
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Originally Posted By: grampi
The reason I'm asking is because I'm looking at buying an '09. I'm usually a Corolla person, but I would also consider a Civic...I have always liked the generation that began in '06...


My grandson has owned a 2009 Civic LX since new. The only complaints he's had is the high wear rate on the factory brake pads and also problems with hardware and trim pieces like around the side windows, the windshield and the two trim pieces on the roof that run front to back. Drivetrain has been fine for 126,000 miles.
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#4495338 - 08/22/17 03:45 PM Re: What year did the Civic get a timing chain? [Re: NormanBuntz]
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Registered: 04/03/17
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Originally Posted By: NormanBuntz

My grandson has owned a 2009 Civic LX since new. The only complaints he's had is the high wear rate on the factory brake pads


Just sounds like the brakes are not being serviced often enough or properly. OE pads should easily last 100k km.

Love my 2010 Si (K series engine with a chain). The K series is probably the best mass produced engine Honda ever offered. Flog it all day at the track and it does not care. With a good set of winter tires, is unstoppable in the winter slush/snow/ice, even lowered.


Edited by mightymousetech (08/22/17 03:46 PM)
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#4495371 - 08/22/17 04:26 PM Re: What year did the Civic get a timing chain? [Re: grampi]
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I'm a big fan of the 8th Gen Civics as well, especially the later ones (09+) due to the short block issue. We had an '09 EX-L that was perfectly reliable while we had it, although it was still young with only ~60k on it when it was totaled. We fully expected it to be our future childrens' first car (we don't even have any kids!). The change to a timing chain was a big bonus, maintenance-wise.

My family has a very early 7th gen Civic as well that has been very reliable, but definitely feels like an inexpensive commuter car. It's incredible how much the Civic matured between those two generations. I never liked how the 9th gen Civics looked, but the current 10th Generation, yes please!

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#4495396 - 08/22/17 04:56 PM Re: What year did the Civic get a timing chain? [Re: grampi]
slacktide_bitog Offline


Registered: 03/20/08
Posts: 6177
Loc: USA
The Si got it in 2002. The other Civics got it in 2006.

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#4495426 - 08/22/17 05:26 PM Re: What year did the Civic get a timing chain? [Re: grampi]
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Registered: 10/09/11
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Loc: USA
Somebody needs to reintroduce gears...

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