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#4494296 - 08/21/17 09:30 AM Toyota 1.8L is apparently a 300K mile engine
grampi Offline


Registered: 10/08/06
Posts: 7768
Loc: OH
My '99 Corolla had a valve go bad at 295K, and now my '04 Corolla seems to have a bad connecting rod bearing at 314K miles. I described what it's doing to my mechanic and that was his prognosis. I'm not complaining as I think 300K from these small engines is decent. Both of these cars required very few repairs on their way to 300K, so I certainly have gotten my money's worth out of them. I will replace this Corolla with another '04 thru '08 (or possibly newer model). They are plentiful and can be had for roughly $4500-$5500 with usually between 100-150K miles...


Edited by grampi (08/21/17 09:31 AM)

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#4494302 - 08/21/17 09:40 AM Re: Toyota 1.8L is apparently a 300K mile engine [Re: grampi]
georgemiller Offline


Registered: 10/30/09
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Loc: New York
What type oil and oil change interval?

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#4494306 - 08/21/17 09:45 AM Re: Toyota 1.8L is apparently a 300K mile engine [Re: grampi]
grampi Offline


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Supertech oil, Wix filters, change interval every 6K miles...mileage was about 90 to 95% highway miles...

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#4494311 - 08/21/17 09:55 AM Re: Toyota 1.8L is apparently a 300K mile engine [Re: grampi]
stockrex Offline


Registered: 01/08/06
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Loc: Michigan
Gampi, only if you had used syn, the finest german castrol juice grin

My boss back in KC has an early 80 corolla, he had a bad valve around 200k also
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#4494317 - 08/21/17 10:00 AM Re: Toyota 1.8L is apparently a 300K mile engine [Re: grampi]
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Registered: 06/02/16
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Loc: US
Why not have a used engine installed from a scrapyard? You could probably purchase the engine and have it installed for around $1500 total.


Edited by TheOilWizard (08/21/17 10:00 AM)

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#4494321 - 08/21/17 10:01 AM Re: Toyota 1.8L is apparently a 300K mile engine [Re: TheOilWizard]
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Registered: 03/09/16
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Originally Posted By: TheOilWizard
Why not have a used engine installed from a scrapyard? You could probably purchase the engine and have it installed for around $1500.


I think a better option is as he mentioned... finding one with 100k miles. Sure you could replace the engine, but the rest of that car has 300k miles on it.
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#4494322 - 08/21/17 10:02 AM Re: Toyota 1.8L is apparently a 300K mile engine [Re: grampi]
Mr Nice Offline


Registered: 09/12/04
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Loc: Orlando, FL
Would a 50% mix of 10w30 HEDO oil prolong this engine back 150K miles ?


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#4494328 - 08/21/17 10:07 AM Re: Toyota 1.8L is apparently a 300K mile engine [Re: HemiHawk]
TheOilWizard Offline


Registered: 06/02/16
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Originally Posted By: HemiHawk
Originally Posted By: TheOilWizard
Why not have a used engine installed from a scrapyard? You could probably purchase the engine and have it installed for around $1500.


I think a better option is as he mentioned... finding one with 100k miles. Sure you could replace the engine, but the rest of that car has 300k miles on it.


Where should we draw the line? An even better option is to purchase a new Corolla. Completely subjective.

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#4494330 - 08/21/17 10:10 AM Re: Toyota 1.8L is apparently a 300K mile engine [Re: grampi]
i_hate_autofraud Offline


Registered: 05/19/16
Posts: 706
Loc: Canada


At 300K miles, you're at least at 6,000 engine Hours, likely more!

Just about any engine will need mechanical work by then!

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#4494333 - 08/21/17 10:14 AM Re: Toyota 1.8L is apparently a 300K mile engine [Re: grampi]
barkingspider Offline


Registered: 12/22/13
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Loc: socal
Best bang for your buck vehicles. I've owned 3 with this engine and they would take a beating w minimal maintenance. If the rest of the car is in good condition, I would consider replace the engine w a used one also
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#4494339 - 08/21/17 10:22 AM Re: Toyota 1.8L is apparently a 300K mile engine [Re: barkingspider]
grampi Offline


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Originally Posted By: barkingspider
Best bang for your buck vehicles. I've owned 3 with this engine and they would take a beating w minimal maintenance. If the rest of the car is in good condition, I would consider replace the engine w a used one also


Murphy's law applies here. If I replace the engine, then the tranny goes...no thanks, I'll just buy another Corolla with ~ 100K miles and be good for another 5 or 6 years...

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#4494340 - 08/21/17 10:24 AM Re: Toyota 1.8L is apparently a 300K mile engine [Re: stockrex]
grampi Offline


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Originally Posted By: stockrex
Gampi, only if you had used syn, the finest german castrol juice grin

My boss back in KC has an early 80 corolla, he had a bad valve around 200k also


I don't think syn would've extended engine life, only the change intervals...

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#4494347 - 08/21/17 10:42 AM Re: Toyota 1.8L is apparently a 300K mile engine [Re: grampi]
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Registered: 10/09/04
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Loc: Cincinnati, OH, USA
I wouldn't consider a bad valve terminal-although, by the time you rebuilt the head & replaced the timing chain kit, it would probably be cheaper to find another engine.
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#4494357 - 08/21/17 10:55 AM Re: Toyota 1.8L is apparently a 300K mile engine [Re: grampi]
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Registered: 09/14/10
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My 84 Civic wagon went about 440K before the oil control rings failed and because of visible of smoke it would not pass California smog. The compression was within new car spec's. I rebuilt the whole engine because I found an NOS Honda factory rebuild all shrink wrapped and ready to go. The bearings, crankshaft, camshaft, and rods were all good. The valves were in such good shape I did not replace any of them, just touched them up along with the seats. If not for the failure of the oil control rings I would have never opened the engine, just kept driving it. I purchased it new and have no plans to ever sell it. I don't drive as much now as I did then so the miles are slow to accumulate, now.

I've got 164K on my 03 4Runner 4.7 V8 and I consider it just broken in. It does not burn enough oil on 10K oil changes to bother with. I hope to never have to touch anything major, ever. I'll be dead before this 2UZ-FE engine wears out.

I use good oil and never abuse either vehicle. This high mileage 75K use a special oil stuff is a joke.

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#4494372 - 08/21/17 11:12 AM Re: Toyota 1.8L is apparently a 300K mile engine [Re: OneEyeJack]
grampi Offline


Registered: 10/08/06
Posts: 7768
Loc: OH
Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack
My 84 Civic wagon went about 440K before the oil control rings failed and because of visible of smoke it would not pass California smog. The compression was within new car spec's. I rebuilt the whole engine because I found an NOS Honda factory rebuild all shrink wrapped and ready to go. The bearings, crankshaft, camshaft, and rods were all good. The valves were in such good shape I did not replace any of them, just touched them up along with the seats. If not for the failure of the oil control rings I would have never opened the engine, just kept driving it. I purchased it new and have no plans to ever sell it. I don't drive as much now as I did then so the miles are slow to accumulate, now.

I've got 164K on my 03 4Runner 4.7 V8 and I consider it just broken in. It does not burn enough oil on 10K oil changes to bother with. I hope to never have to touch anything major, ever. I'll be dead before this 2UZ-FE engine wears out.

I use good oil and never abuse either vehicle. This high mileage 75K use a special oil stuff is a joke.


If I had another vehicle to use while doing so, I would consider rebuilding this engine myself, however, this is my daily driver and I can't be without a car for more than a weekend at a time, and even then it's not good. I agree about the high mileage oil, just a gimmick if you ask me...I use the regular 5W-30 the whole time...these Toyota 1.8s always seem to start using about 1 qt between changes at somewhere around the 150 to 200K mile mark, but the consumption never seems to get any worse, so it's never a big deal...

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