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Reliability of "modern appliances" #4492822
08/19/17 12:14 PM
08/19/17 12:14 PM
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In the shop
53' Stude Offline OP
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So, last Sunday my 31 year old Maytag fridge quit or gave up the ghost. Installed a new Crosley fridge. I got $41 for the old fridge as I wasn't lugging a 305lb fridge to the curb for $25 from electric company. Plus they said it had to "work"

My fathers 1972 Hotpoint fridge is still going strong as is his circa 1968 maytag drier an washer. Are modern appliances not
Built to last?


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Re: Reliability of "modern appliances" [Re: 53' Stude] #4492825
08/19/17 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted By: car51
So, last Sunday my 31 year old Maytag fridge quit or gave up the ghost. Installed a new Crosley fridge. I got $41 for the old fridge as I wasn't lugging a 305lb fridge to the curb for $25 from electric company. Plus they said it had to "work"

My fathers 1972 Hotpoint fridge is still going strong as is his circa 1968 maytag drier an washer. Are modern appliances not
Built to last?


You know the answer to your question. I wouldn't be using a Fridge from 1972 unless electric was cheap.


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Re: Reliability of "modern appliances" [Re: 53' Stude] #4492828
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53' Stude Offline OP
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Well, I rent so electricity isn't my concern.

The Hotpoint fridge of dads is in his garage now. He has a mid 90's Frigidaire
In house


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Re: Reliability of "modern appliances" [Re: 53' Stude] #4492831
08/19/17 12:29 PM
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Phoenix
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Originally Posted By: car51
Well, I rent so electricity isn't my concern.

The Hotpoint fridge of dads is in his garage now. He has a mid 90's Frigidaire
In house


Both of those are inefficient by today's standards. I was never a fan of keeping the old refrigerator around to suck up power, refrigerators are one appliance that greatly improve every few years and I'm fine replacing.


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Re: Reliability of "modern appliances" [Re: 53' Stude] #4492834
08/19/17 12:33 PM
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Texas
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Inefficient as compared to new ones yes. As reliable as new ones? not even close.


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Re: Reliability of "modern appliances" [Re: 53' Stude] #4492836
08/19/17 12:36 PM
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Honda land
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let me use an SAT analogy to "depict" or as the kids say, peep this scenario

Fridges are to appliances *as* Tools are to People

Based on that, you should be delighted you got any service at all meaning expect unreliable at first glance and no service.

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Re: Reliability of "modern appliances" [Re: 53' Stude] #4492840
08/19/17 12:43 PM
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America's Dairyland
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I was in the appliance business for 15 years in a prior life. I would get this question often.

Modern appliances don't last as long as their ancestors and don't cost as much. Let me explain...If you bought a Maytag fridge in 1985 that cost $500, that same fridge today would cost $1131 today. My guess is that you had a basic, 18 cu. ft. top-freezer with wire shelves and it was probably self-defrosting. Today, that same fridge style can be purchased from Best Buy on sale for $430. It uses half the energy(or less); $48/year.

Nobody builds appliances like they used to because they can't do it profitably. Sub Zero says they're built to last but they don't. Truth is there's only a handful of component manufacturers but many brands. They're buying the same commodity as every other brand.

Times changed in the 90's when the economy was going strong, interest rates were low and people were replacing major appliances when they wanted to, not when they needed to. Keeping up with the Jones'.


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Re: Reliability of "modern appliances" [Re: 53' Stude] #4492849
08/19/17 01:01 PM
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Texas
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Also, remember more features an appliance has, more to go wrong, the boards go out in a lot of the appliances, pretty much cheaper to buy a new one than fix it. I wouldn't have some fancy touch screen appliances without surge protection on it, where as older more simpler it wasn't as big a deal.


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Re: Reliability of "modern appliances" [Re: 53' Stude] #4492856
08/19/17 01:09 PM
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USA
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Late 80s Whirlpool refrigerator still going strong.Replaced a 1970s Philco that lasted only a few years and then a Norge.The Norge lost its thermostat but the repair place claimed it would cost as much to fix it as to replace the whole unit.Got $25.00 on trade,they replaced the thermostat and sold the unit for $150.......scam artists...

Re: Reliability of "modern appliances" [Re: 53' Stude] #4492860
08/19/17 01:15 PM
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I worked at Lowe's for 10 years as a kitchen designer and also had to sell appliances, as they refuse to staff the departments. I honestly told people don't get "attached" to your new appliance because realistically you can expect 5 to 7 years out of new appliances, and avoid ones with touch screens as they tend to have expensive problems even sooner. Appliance manufactures realized that if your appliance lasts 30 years they aren't going to make any repeat sales. And as someone else here said it would cost a bloody fortune to build one of today's modern appliances that last as long as the old ones did.

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Re: Reliability of "modern appliances" [Re: 53' Stude] #4492865
08/19/17 01:21 PM
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My 17 yr old Frigidaire refrigerator is still going strong. It hasn't had an easy life either, spending the last 10 yrs in my garage with wild temperature swings.

My 20 yr old Maytag washer & dryer also work great.


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Re: Reliability of "modern appliances" [Re: mclasser] #4492867
08/19/17 01:28 PM
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Texas & Global
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I have six Kenmore Elite stainless appliances that are 12 years old - no repairs ... they have all been used allot.


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Re: Reliability of "modern appliances" [Re: 53' Stude] #4492873
08/19/17 01:39 PM
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Old appliances use a lot of energy, and I don't see a problem with new stuff. Sure it isn't made quite as well as the old stuff but with energy savings and fancy features I think it's worth it.


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Re: Reliability of "modern appliances" [Re: 53' Stude] #4492883
08/19/17 01:49 PM
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GE sold their appliances division to ChiCom Haier, so don't expect anything good from them. New appliances are also almost exclusively non-US made.


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Re: Reliability of "modern appliances" [Re: mclasser] #4492894
08/19/17 02:03 PM
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Colorado
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Definitely not made like they used to ... what we have below is a 1978 GE model that has lived in a garage since 1997.

In all of those years, one repair and it was caused by Mickey trying to stay warm.



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