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M1 AFE 0w-20 or EP 0w-20 #4492710
08/19/17 10:26 AM
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I'm considering giving the thin stuff another try since I've replaced my PCV valve and consumption is back down to 1qt in 6000 miles or so.

I've looked at the PDS for both oils and they seem about the same.

Is there any practical difference between the two oils?


2010 Ford Fusion SE 3.0L V6, 178k miles M1 HM 10w-30
Re: M1 AFE 0w-20 or EP 0w-20 [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4492721
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The AFE is plenty good for 10k mile intervals if you plan to exceed maybe consider the EP. I found the AFE seemed to run better but it was by no means a scientific method, just seat of my pants.


2007 Corolla Red Pearl 155k miles
PP 0w20 & ST 4967

Re: M1 AFE 0w-20 or EP 0w-20 [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4492737
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Tig1 is probably the best example of running AFE 10k on both his cars with good results


2017 Impreza Sport Hatch M1 0w20 OEM filter
2003 Corolla Magnatec 5w30 OEM Filter
2013 Jetta 2.5 Castrol 0w40 OEM filter
Re: M1 AFE 0w-20 or EP 0w-20 [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4492738
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Blend 50 50 smile
Just kidding.
Thought the ep had higher pao content ?

Last edited by merconvvv; 08/19/17 11:00 AM.

1988 Mazda RX7 na PP 10w30 Noack 4.7
1994 Chrysler Concorde 3.3
1999 Ford Expedition 4.6 QSUD 10W30 NOACK 5.0
Re: M1 AFE 0w-20 or EP 0w-20 [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4492741
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I agree that for 10K miles or less....AFE is the way to go....beyond 10K I'd go with EP...


'Journalism is Dead'
Re: M1 AFE 0w-20 or EP 0w-20 [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4492748
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In my experience and application AFE outperformed EP, so I would choose AFE.


2018 MB AMG GLC43 3.0L Coupe - Castrol 0W-40/Purflux
2018 MB C300 2.0L - M1 0W-40/OEM
2015 F-250 6.7L PS Diesel - Delo 15W-40/CQ Blue
2014 Explorer 3.5L Limited - M1 AFE 0W-20/FU
Re: M1 AFE 0w-20 or EP 0w-20 [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4492769
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Good ole magnetec in 5w20. Save a few bux.

Re: M1 AFE 0w-20 or EP 0w-20 [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4492785
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The only advantage to paying the extra money for EP is if you plan on exceeding 10k. Otherwise, save a few dollars and just get the regular AFE 0w20 smile

Re: M1 AFE 0w-20 or EP 0w-20 [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4492813
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Ever think of blending m1 10w30hm with 0w20afe.
With just 0w20 your consumption likely to increase from 10w30hm.


1988 Mazda RX7 na PP 10w30 Noack 4.7
1994 Chrysler Concorde 3.3
1999 Ford Expedition 4.6 QSUD 10W30 NOACK 5.0
Re: M1 AFE 0w-20 or EP 0w-20 [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4492827
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on second thought, why not use M1 HM 0w20? Thin, but also has stuff to slow down consumption smile

Re: M1 AFE 0w-20 or EP 0w-20 [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4492830
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With just about a $3 difference in price at walmart, my vote is for EP. You may not need the 15,000 mile capability but the extra margin of safety and a little more oil "strength" is worth it to me. I only use EP.

Re: M1 AFE 0w-20 or EP 0w-20 [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4492890
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I use Mobil I 0W-20 AFE for fall oil change and AFE 0W-30 for spring oil change. Been using Mobil I since I believe 1978 after reading an article on synthetic oil in Popular Mechanics. Good products. smile

Re: M1 AFE 0w-20 or EP 0w-20 [Re: GMBoy] #4492941
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Originally Posted By: GMBoy
With just about a $3 difference in price at walmart, my vote is for EP. You may not need the 15,000 mile capability but the extra margin of safety and a little more oil "strength" is worth it to me. I only use EP.

I agree with this. Next OCI, I'm going with 0w20 EP in my Pilot.

Last edited by mclasser; 08/19/17 03:50 PM.

2018 Hyundai Elantra VE -- 4K
2013 Honda Pilot EX-L 4WD -- 56K
2002 Honda Accord EX-L -- 211K

Re: M1 AFE 0w-20 or EP 0w-20 [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4493018
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I'll run 15k as long as I don't see massive consumption.

I was using a quart in 2k but that went back to a quart in 6k after I replaced the PCV valve. It ran 5w20 for the first 100k or so with this same rate of use so fingers crossed it stays the same with 0w20


2010 Ford Fusion SE 3.0L V6, 178k miles M1 HM 10w-30
Re: M1 AFE 0w-20 or EP 0w-20 [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4493177
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Anyone think that there is a mileage difference between the two? I realize it would be small if any.


2010 Ford Fusion SE 3.0L V6, 178k miles M1 HM 10w-30
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