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#4492710 - 08/19/17 10:26 AM M1 AFE 0w-20 or EP 0w-20
SilverFusion2010 Offline


Registered: 06/29/11
Posts: 1528
Loc: Crawfordville FL
I'm considering giving the thin stuff another try since I've replaced my PCV valve and consumption is back down to 1qt in 6000 miles or so.

I've looked at the PDS for both oils and they seem about the same.

Is there any practical difference between the two oils?
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#4492721 - 08/19/17 10:36 AM Re: M1 AFE 0w-20 or EP 0w-20 [Re: SilverFusion2010]
Rolla07 Offline


Registered: 11/05/11
Posts: 4668
Loc: MTL, CANADA
The AFE is plenty good for 10k mile intervals if you plan to exceed maybe consider the EP. I found the AFE seemed to run better but it was by no means a scientific method, just seat of my pants.
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#4492737 - 08/19/17 10:57 AM Re: M1 AFE 0w-20 or EP 0w-20 [Re: SilverFusion2010]
Tech819 Offline


Registered: 02/08/15
Posts: 247
Loc: Toronto, Canada
Tig1 is probably the best example of running AFE 10k on both his cars with good results
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#4492738 - 08/19/17 10:59 AM Re: M1 AFE 0w-20 or EP 0w-20 [Re: SilverFusion2010]
merconvvv Offline


Registered: 07/10/16
Posts: 682
Loc: il usa
Blend 50 50 smile
Just kidding.
Thought the ep had higher pao content ?


Edited by merconvvv (08/19/17 11:00 AM)
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#4492741 - 08/19/17 11:13 AM Re: M1 AFE 0w-20 or EP 0w-20 [Re: SilverFusion2010]
pbm Offline


Registered: 04/19/04
Posts: 7482
Loc: New York
I agree that for 10K miles or less....AFE is the way to go....beyond 10K I'd go with EP...

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#4492748 - 08/19/17 11:27 AM Re: M1 AFE 0w-20 or EP 0w-20 [Re: SilverFusion2010]
2015_PSD Offline


Registered: 09/26/10
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In my experience and application AFE outperformed EP, so I would choose AFE.
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#4492769 - 08/19/17 11:59 AM Re: M1 AFE 0w-20 or EP 0w-20 [Re: SilverFusion2010]
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Registered: 07/18/09
Posts: 407
Loc: texas
Good ole magnetec in 5w20. Save a few bux.

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#4492785 - 08/19/17 12:16 PM Re: M1 AFE 0w-20 or EP 0w-20 [Re: SilverFusion2010]
slacktide_bitog Offline


Registered: 03/20/08
Posts: 5837
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The only advantage to paying the extra money for EP is if you plan on exceeding 10k. Otherwise, save a few dollars and just get the regular AFE 0w20 smile

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#4492813 - 08/19/17 01:01 PM Re: M1 AFE 0w-20 or EP 0w-20 [Re: SilverFusion2010]
merconvvv Offline


Registered: 07/10/16
Posts: 682
Loc: il usa
Ever think of blending m1 10w30hm with 0w20afe.
With just 0w20 your consumption likely to increase from 10w30hm.
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#4492827 - 08/19/17 01:23 PM Re: M1 AFE 0w-20 or EP 0w-20 [Re: SilverFusion2010]
slacktide_bitog Offline


Registered: 03/20/08
Posts: 5837
Loc: USA
on second thought, why not use M1 HM 0w20? Thin, but also has stuff to slow down consumption smile

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#4492830 - 08/19/17 01:27 PM Re: M1 AFE 0w-20 or EP 0w-20 [Re: SilverFusion2010]
GMBoy Offline


Registered: 11/22/04
Posts: 7684
Loc: Texas
With just about a $3 difference in price at walmart, my vote is for EP. You may not need the 15,000 mile capability but the extra margin of safety and a little more oil "strength" is worth it to me. I only use EP.

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#4492890 - 08/19/17 03:01 PM Re: M1 AFE 0w-20 or EP 0w-20 [Re: SilverFusion2010]
Yah-Tah-Hey Offline


Registered: 05/26/14
Posts: 3223
Loc: Columbus,Nebraska
I use Mobil I 0W-20 AFE for fall oil change and AFE 0W-30 for spring oil change. Been using Mobil I since I believe 1978 after reading an article on synthetic oil in Popular Mechanics. Good products. smile

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#4492941 - 08/19/17 03:49 PM Re: M1 AFE 0w-20 or EP 0w-20 [Re: GMBoy]
mclasser Offline


Registered: 04/13/13
Posts: 2170
Loc: The Northeast
Originally Posted By: GMBoy
With just about a $3 difference in price at walmart, my vote is for EP. You may not need the 15,000 mile capability but the extra margin of safety and a little more oil "strength" is worth it to me. I only use EP.

I agree with this. Next OCI, I'm going with 0w20 EP in my Pilot.


Edited by mclasser (08/19/17 03:50 PM)
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#4493018 - 08/19/17 05:10 PM Re: M1 AFE 0w-20 or EP 0w-20 [Re: SilverFusion2010]
SilverFusion2010 Offline


Registered: 06/29/11
Posts: 1528
Loc: Crawfordville FL
I'll run 15k as long as I don't see massive consumption.

I was using a quart in 2k but that went back to a quart in 6k after I replaced the PCV valve. It ran 5w20 for the first 100k or so with this same rate of use so fingers crossed it stays the same with 0w20
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#4493177 - 08/19/17 08:05 PM Re: M1 AFE 0w-20 or EP 0w-20 [Re: SilverFusion2010]
SilverFusion2010 Offline


Registered: 06/29/11
Posts: 1528
Loc: Crawfordville FL
Anyone think that there is a mileage difference between the two? I realize it would be small if any.
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