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Motul 8100 X-cess 5W40, 9,734mi, '12 MB C250 1.8T #4491452
08/17/17 08:24 PM
08/17/17 08:24 PM
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Posts: 124
Chattanooga, TN
GermanAutohaus Offline OP
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This is a UOA from a 2012 Mercedes-Benz C250 with a 1.8L turbocharged M271 engine running Motul 8100 Xcess 5W40. Vehicle is driven daily with a 50/50 mix of city/hwy driving in southeast climate. Conservative driving style with infrequent spirited driving. Engine was refilled with same oil.


Re: Motul 8100 X-cess 5W40, 9,734mi, '12 MB C250 1.8T [Re: GermanAutohaus] #4491495
08/17/17 09:48 PM
08/17/17 09:48 PM
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Port Aransas, TX
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Thanks for posting all the UOAs. I enjoyed reading them.

Re: Motul 8100 X-cess 5W40, 9,734mi, '12 MB C250 1.8T [Re: GermanAutohaus] #4491516
08/17/17 10:46 PM
08/17/17 10:46 PM
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Saskatchewan, Canada
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You should edit the image of your Blackstone Reports before posting online; there is no good reason to expose eMail and street addresses, etc. to the web, which, of course, will be viewable forever. Your post has been already recorded by Google, Yahoo, Bing, etc.


'57 FL Straight 50 wt
'90 Miata 1.8L w/Rotrex Supercharger [Mobil1 0W-40]
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Re: Motul 8100 X-cess 5W40, 9,734mi, '12 MB C250 1.8T [Re: Johnny2Bad] #4491526
08/17/17 11:13 PM
08/17/17 11:13 PM
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Chicago, IL
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Originally Posted By: Johnny2Bad
You should edit the image of your Blackstone Reports before posting online; there is no good reason to expose eMail and street addresses, etc. to the web, which, of course, will be viewable forever. Your post has been already recorded by Google, Yahoo, Bing, etc.

Nah free business advertising for him.


08 Honda Accord EX-L 2.4L M1 EP 0w20 145k
01 Kymco People 50
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95 Yamaha Jog
Re: Motul 8100 X-cess 5W40, 9,734mi, '12 MB C250 1.8T [Re: Johnny2Bad] #4491564
08/18/17 02:30 AM
08/18/17 02:30 AM
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Posts: 5,118
North Carolina
rooflessVW Online content
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North Carolina
Originally Posted By: Johnny2Bad
You should edit the image of your Blackstone Reports before posting online; there is no good reason to expose eMail and street addresses, etc. to the web, which, of course, will be viewable forever. Your post has been already recorded by Google, Yahoo, Bing, etc.

The same information is already on Google, Yahoo, Bing, etc. See?

It's in the tubes, man...


"Zed's dead baby, Zed's dead."
Re: Motul 8100 X-cess 5W40, 9,734mi, '12 MB C250 1.8T [Re: GermanAutohaus] #4491587
08/18/17 04:49 AM
08/18/17 04:49 AM
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Chattanooga, TN
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Hmm, wonder if Motul is paying for the Blackstone analysis in order to market their products. Why would an independent shop submit UOA for customers at their expense. I also live in Chattanooga, have to look them up.

Re: Motul 8100 X-cess 5W40, 9,734mi, '12 MB C250 1.8T [Re: Spector] #4491598
08/18/17 05:21 AM
08/18/17 05:21 AM
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Posts: 5,118
North Carolina
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North Carolina
Originally Posted By: Spector
Hmm, wonder if Motul is paying for the Blackstone analysis in order to market their products. Why would an independent shop submit UOA for customers at their expense. I also live in Chattanooga, have to look them up.

I believe it is a service he offers his customers. Motul is the shop oil, but you'll see UOAs of Mobil, T6, Castrol, etc. from time to time.


"Zed's dead baby, Zed's dead."
Re: Motul 8100 X-cess 5W40, 9,734mi, '12 MB C250 1.8T [Re: rooflessVW] #4491609
08/18/17 05:42 AM
08/18/17 05:42 AM
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Posts: 124
Chattanooga, TN
GermanAutohaus Offline OP
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Chattanooga, TN
Originally Posted By: Spector
Hmm, wonder if Motul is paying for the Blackstone analysis in order to market their products. Why would an independent shop submit UOA for customers at their expense. I also live in Chattanooga, have to look them up.


Hey there, Spector! Like rooflessvw mentioned Motul is our official shop oil, but when it comes to the oilanalysis I try to stay unbiased. Sometimes an oil analysis is something the customer requests, others I tell them I'll cover the cost just out of curiosity (interesting driving/operating conditions with vehicle).

I feel obligated to know as much as possible about the oil i'm putting in my customers vehicles. If a certain oil doesn't jive well with an application, i'd be the first to recommended a completely different oil manufacturer if it fit the bill more appropriately. To a fellow Chattanoogan, feel free to stop by and have a chat. smile

Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
I believe it is a service he offers his customers. Motul is the shop oil, but you'll see UOAs of Mobil, T6, Castrol, etc. from time to time.


Right on. If I can get a good sample where the conditions are fully known, even if it's a product we don't carry, I'll send it off for analysis for just out of curiosity. I think a bit of OCD might be at play! smile

Re: Motul 8100 X-cess 5W40, 9,734mi, '12 MB C250 1.8T [Re: GermanAutohaus] #4491626
08/18/17 06:09 AM
08/18/17 06:09 AM
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Malaysia
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Malaysia
You would be a great resource on Bitog euro UOA .. blush

Re: Motul 8100 X-cess 5W40, 9,734mi, '12 MB C250 1.8T [Re: GermanAutohaus] #4491648
08/18/17 06:35 AM
08/18/17 06:35 AM
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PA,US
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German, based on what you've seen... Would you recommend the Motul 8100 Xcess 5W40 for the 2.0 TSI in a GTI? I recently did my first change with Castrol OE pro 5w40 (supposedly factory fill?) but I've since read some things stating its far from ideal.

Thanks,


2016 Nissan Frontier Pro4x
2017 VW GTI sport
1995 Mustang GTS
Re: Motul 8100 X-cess 5W40, 9,734mi, '12 MB C250 1.8T [Re: HemiHawk] #4491682
08/18/17 07:30 AM
08/18/17 07:30 AM
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Chattanooga, TN
GermanAutohaus Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: HemiHawk
German, based on what you've seen... Would you recommend the Motul 8100 Xcess 5W40 for the 2.0 TSI in a GTI? I recently did my first change with Castrol OE pro 5w40 (supposedly factory fill?) but I've since read some things stating its far from ideal.

Thanks,


Most definitely. The X-cess 5W40 has NOACK of ~9.9% while the OE Pro is closer to 13%. VWs 502/505 spec requires at most a NOACK of 13%, so the OE Pro meets it, but definitely not optimal. As you stated it's satisfactory, but not optimal. I do know that i've had quite a few Xcess UOAs hit 12-17K with excellent results.

Re: Motul 8100 X-cess 5W40, 9,734mi, '12 MB C250 1.8T [Re: GermanAutohaus] #4491719
08/18/17 08:12 AM
08/18/17 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted By: GermanAutohaus

Most definitely. The X-cess 5W40 has NOACK of ~9.9% while the OE Pro is closer to 13%. VWs 502/505 spec requires at most a NOACK of 13%, so the OE Pro meets it, but definitely not optimal. As you stated it's satisfactory, but not optimal. I do know that i've had quite a few Xcess UOAs hit 12-17K with excellent results.


Thanks!


2016 Nissan Frontier Pro4x
2017 VW GTI sport
1995 Mustang GTS
Re: Motul 8100 X-cess 5W40, 9,734mi, '12 MB C250 1.8T [Re: GermanAutohaus] #4491748
08/18/17 08:30 AM
08/18/17 08:30 AM
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MD
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I think you provide a great service.

Re: Motul 8100 X-cess 5W40, 9,734mi, '12 MB C250 1.8T [Re: rooflessVW] #4491773
08/18/17 08:52 AM
08/18/17 08:52 AM
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Texas & Global
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On another thread running now - the Motul did nothing special - back to the discussion of "extremes" being the reason for the more expensive lubes ...


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Re: Motul 8100 X-cess 5W40, 9,734mi, '12 MB C250 1.8T [Re: GermanAutohaus] #4491794
08/18/17 09:02 AM
08/18/17 09:02 AM
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Virginia
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Virginia
Looks great - the oil had plenty left. Good post.


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