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Bled some brakes today #4490547
08/16/17 07:37 PM
08/16/17 07:37 PM
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West Michigan
buck91 Offline OP
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Since the daughter is heading off to the dorms next week I took the opportunity today to swap out some fresh tires and go over her breaks. PO did a pad slap but neglected to lubricate ANYTHING; re-did the rears a little while back and now it was time for fronts. So frustrating but at least minimal new parts (just a pad hardware kit).

Brake fluid was terrible, though. When I did the rears and siphoned the MC and flushed them out a little, though I knew it wasn't good enough. When I siphoned the MC today the fluid coming out was thick, opaque, dark yellow (Pics when I find my phone). Replaced with Valvoline Dot3/4 (Not worried about that debate, just leave it as I have used this fluid for a long time and it works). Bled everything out with my new Motive Power Bleeder. So easy! Anyways, brakes no longer drag and feel just about a good as one could hope for with these cheap pads. Can readily lock up the 265/70r17 LTX AT2 tires that are on it now!

Seriously, though. Who installs breaks with completely dry and unlubricated caliper pins? Front and rears are slightly different but both are a version of metal pin in rubber bushing. Can you say stiction?!?


2011 F150 4x4 5.0L
1996 Mustang GT 5spd/ragtop
Re: Bled some brakes today [Re: buck91] #4490644
08/16/17 10:14 PM
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Well done! Peace of mind.

Say, where and how much did you get the motive? Any user experience tips, tricks or warnings?

Re: Bled some brakes today [Re: buck91] #4490734
08/17/17 05:19 AM
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I used to never liube my brakes. Not because I was lazy but I didn't Know to. I remember pulling a slid pin and it having grease and I wiped it off and asking myself how did that get there. Lol


1984 Mercedes-Benz 300SD - 100k
1995 F150 XL 4.9 reg cab 5MT - 251k 5w30
2016 Mazda6 Touring 6MT - 57k 10w30
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Re: Bled some brakes today [Re: SumpChump] #4490736
08/17/17 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted By: SumpChump
Well done! Peace of mind.

Say, where and how much did you get the motive? Any user experience tips, tricks or warnings?

One tip I learned is test hook it to the reservoir empty and make sure it holds pressure without brake fluid. Mine popped off and fluid went everywhere.


1984 Mercedes-Benz 300SD - 100k
1995 F150 XL 4.9 reg cab 5MT - 251k 5w30
2016 Mazda6 Touring 6MT - 57k 10w30
2006 Buick Lucerne CXL 3.8 31k 5w30
Re: Bled some brakes today [Re: buck91] #4522162
09/21/17 10:43 AM
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The Motiv is awesome. I bought one several years ago for a previous VW, then last summer bought a different attachment to do the brakes on the Xterra since my wife didn't like helping, lol. Definitely a must have for one person brake flushing.


2013.5 VW GLI
2013 Nissan Xterra Pro-4X
Re: Bled some brakes today [Re: buck91] #4522234
09/21/17 12:05 PM
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While it makes bleeding brakes much easier, all one needs are fish tank air line and an empty 1L pop bottle to bleed brake line by self.


Kia Sportage 2014 GDI 2.4L
Kia Forte 2014 MPI 1.8L
Re: Bled some brakes today [Re: dubber09] #4522249
09/21/17 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted By: dubber09
While it makes bleeding brakes much easier, all one needs are fish tank air line and an empty 1L pop bottle to bleed brake line by self.


Or just buy a bleeder and make it easier on yourself. And have another tool for the garage:)


2013.5 VW GLI
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Re: Bled some brakes today [Re: buck91] #4522261
09/21/17 12:52 PM
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Gravity bleed for me. No mess, no risk. It does take longer but I have the time.


Barry

1979 BMW R45 (Triple QX 5W40)
2009 Mercedes C180K (Shell Helix Ultra 5W40)
Re: Bled some brakes today [Re: buck91] #4522334
09/21/17 02:09 PM
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Me too, if I don't need the tool to do the job, I don't buy/rent it.
Doing this at home - taking wheels off cars was most labor intensive, bleeding was a piece of cake.


Kia Sportage 2014 GDI 2.4L
Kia Forte 2014 MPI 1.8L
Re: Bled some brakes today [Re: buck91] #4523596
09/22/17 08:14 PM
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When I'm working on an open system, I maintain a gravity bleed. This keeps the ABS happy. If the job stops, I cap the system. If you can't get a gravity bleed then the system isn't air tight. I went through 2 qts doing the lines and hoses on the Rat.


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1994 Ranger ,the Rat, 5w30 dino, STP filter

'16 Camry SE, Valvoline HM 0w20 and OEM filter
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Re: Bled some brakes today [Re: buck91] #4525538
09/25/17 07:46 AM
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Nice work. Brake fluid is often overlooked even by the "pros." I am sure your daughter's car is in good shape for the year. Congrats


2017 Chevy Traverse - 28k - Delco Dexos 1 and PF63
2014 Chevy Equinox - 22k - Delco Dexos 1 and PF457G
2015 GMC Terrain - 22k- Delco Dexos 1 and PF457G
Re: Bled some brakes today [Re: buck91] #4526272
09/25/17 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted By: buck91
Seriously, though. Who installs breaks with completely dry and unlubricated caliper pins?

Quite a lot. I see it on forums, I hear it in guy discussions.


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Re: Bled some brakes today [Re: HangFire] #4526456
09/26/17 07:12 AM
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Upper Midwest
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Originally Posted By: HangFire
Originally Posted By: buck91
Seriously, though. Who installs breaks with completely dry and unlubricated caliper pins?

Quite a lot. I see it on forums, I hear it in guy discussions.

Not typical perhaps but my BMW FSM specifies that the pins are installed dry and unlubricated. Seems to work fine all the years I've had the car.


1994 BMW 530i, 238K
1996 Honda Accord, 266K
1999 Toyota Sienna, 407K
2000 Toyota ECHO, 280K
Re: Bled some brakes today [Re: barryh] #4526462
09/26/17 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted By: barryh
Gravity bleed for me. No mess, no risk. It does take longer but I have the time.


That's pretty much how I've done it for more years than I care to count. I thought about a Motive Bleeder. but for an average of one brake bleed job every two years or so it didn't seem worth it.


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Re: Bled some brakes today [Re: buck91] #4526527
09/26/17 08:34 AM
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I just used a turkey baster for the MC, then gravity bled the calipers on my 2016 Forester. Safe and easy. Took about an hour and a quart of DOT3.


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