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Valvoline Full Synthetic Maxlife 10W-30 #4490065
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I was just perusing some oil specs. Generally(very broadly) within the same oil family, the 5W-30 and 10W-30 oils have fairly similiar specs. I was struck by the difference in the Valvoline Maxlife Synthetic in those two grades, particularly in NOACK. The 5W-30 is 10.2, the 10W-30 is 6.3.

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The PQIA had Pennzoil conventional 10W30 at 4.4/4.2% NOACK loss (they retested because they couldn't believe it) in 2015!
There certainly does seem to be a good opportunity to grab a low NOACK oil at a good price in the 10W30 grade, think other posters on here have mentioned that modern SAE30 formulations will often test out to the 10W30 grade or close to it. I am thinking about such oils for summer use in the future...

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Few bitogers have said pyb noack in 2015 was temporary. Valvoline qsud and pp 10w30 all have low published noacks.


1988 Mazda RX7 na PP 10w30 Noack 4.7
1994 Chrysler Concorde 3.3
1999 Ford Expedition 4.6 QSUD 10W30 NOACK 5.0
Re: Valvoline Full Synthetic Maxlife 10W-30 [Re: merconvvv] #4490265
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Originally Posted By: merconvvv
Few bitogers have said pyb noack in 2015 was temporary. Valvoline qsud and pp 10w30 all have low published noacks.


Do you mean published by the manufacturers?
Pennzoil published NOACKs when Pureplus was new and then quickly pulled them off the web, the latest product info sheets don't show NOACK. I didn't look at 10W30s at the time, do remember that PU and PUP were around the 9-11% range for 5W30.
I don't see anything for QSUD on their website either.
Valvoline is good about sharing info, I find it surprising that the Maxlife 10W30's NOACK (6.3%) is so much lower than that for Synpower (10%).


2014 Forester XT, 86000 miles
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M1 5W30 d1G2
Tokyo Roki 15208AA170 filter
Re: Valvoline Full Synthetic Maxlife 10W-30 [Re: Virtus_Probi] #4490334
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Originally Posted By: Virtus_Probi
Originally Posted By: merconvvv
Few bitogers have said pyb noack in 2015 was temporary. Valvoline qsud and pp 10w30 all have low published noacks.


Do you mean published by the manufacturers?
Pennzoil published NOACKs when Pureplus was new and then quickly pulled them off the web, the latest product info sheets don't show NOACK. I didn't look at 10W30s at the time, do remember that PU and PUP were around the 9-11% range for 5W30.
I don't see anything for QSUD on their website either.
Valvoline is good about sharing info, I find it surprising that the Maxlife 10W30's NOACK (6.3%) is so much lower than that for Synpower (10%).


No pennzoil conventional 10w30 in yellow bottle (pyb) was tested by pqia.com at noack of 4.3. Pennzoil does not mention the noack for pyb. Pennzoil only states it for platinum lineup including 10w30 at 4.7.
Few bitogers surmised and i would agree that pyb noack at 4.3 reported by pqia after they tested a bottle was not to be assumes for all time but shell just dumping some excess good stuff in the pyb bottles smile


1988 Mazda RX7 na PP 10w30 Noack 4.7
1994 Chrysler Concorde 3.3
1999 Ford Expedition 4.6 QSUD 10W30 NOACK 5.0
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And yes qsud 10w30 is officially at 5.0 noack.
They have not updated their web sites.
Lazy bums.


1988 Mazda RX7 na PP 10w30 Noack 4.7
1994 Chrysler Concorde 3.3
1999 Ford Expedition 4.6 QSUD 10W30 NOACK 5.0
Re: Valvoline Full Synthetic Maxlife 10W-30 [Re: Virtus_Probi] #4490389
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Originally Posted By: Virtus_Probi
Originally Posted By: merconvvv
Few bitogers have said pyb noack in 2015 was temporary. Valvoline qsud and pp 10w30 all have low published noacks.


Do you mean published by the manufacturers?
Pennzoil published NOACKs when Pureplus was new and then quickly pulled them off the web, the latest product info sheets don't show NOACK. I didn't look at 10W30s at the time, do remember that PU and PUP were around the 9-11% range for 5W30.
I don't see anything for QSUD on their website either.
Valvoline is good about sharing info, I find it surprising that the Maxlife 10W30's NOACK (6.3%) is so much lower than that for Synpower (10%).


Is the Maxlife with 6.3% NOACK MAXLIFE SYNPOWER?


09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: Valvoline Full Synthetic Maxlife 10W-30 [Re: 53' Stude] #4490591
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Originally Posted By: car51
Originally Posted By: Virtus_Probi
Originally Posted By: merconvvv
Few bitogers have said pyb noack in 2015 was temporary. Valvoline qsud and pp 10w30 all have low published noacks.


Do you mean published by the manufacturers?
Pennzoil published NOACKs when Pureplus was new and then quickly pulled them off the web, the latest product info sheets don't show NOACK. I didn't look at 10W30s at the time, do remember that PU and PUP were around the 9-11% range for 5W30.
I don't see anything for QSUD on their website either.
Valvoline is good about sharing info, I find it surprising that the Maxlife 10W30's NOACK (6.3%) is so much lower than that for Synpower (10%).


Is the Maxlife with 6.3% NOACK MAXLIFE SYNPOWER?


No synpower 10w30 has around 10 percent noack.

Valv full synthetic with maxlife tech 10w30 is 6.3 %
This also is their high mileage oil i think.


1988 Mazda RX7 na PP 10w30 Noack 4.7
1994 Chrysler Concorde 3.3
1999 Ford Expedition 4.6 QSUD 10W30 NOACK 5.0

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