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Worth it to convert to dot 4 lv #4488536
08/14/17 05:01 PM
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buck91 Offline OP
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Is it worth it to convert to dot 4 lv? Would be in my F150 and the wife's newer explorer sport. Seems like it would be good in Michigan winter but would it really matter? Other than price, what are the drawbacks?


2011 F150 4x4 5.0L
1996 Mustang GT 5spd/ragtop
Re: Worth it to convert to dot 4 lv [Re: buck91] #4488546
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Out of curiosity, I looked up what a 2016 Explorer specs. Ford says to use a DOT 4 LV fluid in it.

http://www.fordservicecontent.com/Ford_C...ch=IE&div=f


Wife: 15' Audi A4 quattro 6 speed manual
Me: 13' VW GTI 3 door 6 speed manual
Re: Worth it to convert to dot 4 lv [Re: buck91] #4488551
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I should have added in my opinion, it's easier on the pump utilizing a lower viscosity fluid than a thicker fluid.


Wife: 15' Audi A4 quattro 6 speed manual
Me: 13' VW GTI 3 door 6 speed manual
Re: Worth it to convert to dot 4 lv [Re: buck91] #4488553
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buck91 Offline OP
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What about the truck, though. It's spec is for dot 3. Any reason not to switch?


2011 F150 4x4 5.0L
1996 Mustang GT 5spd/ragtop
Re: Worth it to convert to dot 4 lv [Re: buck91] #4488554
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Well it depends what you have...

If only basic ABS then DOT4 is enough...

If you have other candies as ASR....TCS...then you need DOT4 LV to support them (better response)


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Re: Worth it to convert to dot 4 lv [Re: buck91] #4488566
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We are doing a bunch of recall master cylinders on F-150s and the new ones have caps that say DOT 4LV if that means anything.


2014 Ford Mustang GT Track Pack
1995 Ford Mustang GT

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Re: Worth it to convert to dot 4 lv [Re: buck91] #4488603
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It certainly won't harm anything! Plus, you do get the higher boiling points of DOT 4 vs DOT 3, which makes it worth the extra $5 smile

Re: Worth it to convert to dot 4 lv [Re: buck91] #4488627
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Only drawback is that Dot 4 is more hygroscopic than Dot 3. Mercedes uses Super Dot 4 and recommends brake fluid flushes every 2 years. Dot 3 can go for longer.

Re: Worth it to convert to dot 4 lv [Re: buck91] #4488652
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I've heard that the LV stuff gives a better brake pedal feel at lower temps. If you change the fluid every other year, it should be fine.

I say give it a shot. Worst case, you're out the $20 for the fluid and an hour of your time.


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Re: Worth it to convert to dot 4 lv [Re: buck91] #4488658
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So dot 4 is supposed to improve ABS vs dot 3?


2010 Ford Fusion SE 3.0L V6, 178k miles M1 HM 10w-30
Re: Worth it to convert to dot 4 lv [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4488693
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Originally Posted By: SilverFusion2010
So dot 4 is supposed to improve ABS vs dot 3?

DOT 4LV, yes.


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1995 Ford Mustang GT

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Re: Worth it to convert to dot 4 lv [Re: buck91] #4490858
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If the system is calibrated or designed for LV then use it.


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Re: Worth it to convert to dot 4 lv [Re: buck91] #4491326
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Mine is dot 3. Dot 4 is compatible. I haven't changed because it's miserably hot here right now and I've already changed the fluid this year.

If dot 4LV would improve anti-lock and traction control performance I'll give it a go


2010 Ford Fusion SE 3.0L V6, 178k miles M1 HM 10w-30

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