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Mazda 3 and 6? #4488495
08/14/17 03:59 PM
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Houston, TX
Bhoppy1216 Offline OP
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Hello again!

I was wondering peoples opinions on the Mazda 3 and 6. I wanted a manual but I have seen that on some models the clutch will literally just go out. Anyone own one of these bad boys that can tell me some pros and cons?

Re: Mazda 3 and 6? [Re: Bhoppy1216] #4488503
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My opinion: great cars. Clutch will last if you know what you're doing. Never owned one and don't have enough headroom for me but if they did they'd be on the radar. I know a guy that owned a Mazda for several years, and his was bulletproof...and that's what I read online. There of course might be issues I'm not aware of but on the whole, Mazda produce great vehicles.


Thick vs Thin test: 15k / 43k miles complete
Re: Mazda 3 and 6? [Re: Bhoppy1216] #4488507
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The clutch can just "go" on any car. Depends on how you drive. I had a 2010 Mazda 3 with a manual for 5 years and 115k miles. Never even had to do brakes on that car. Current Mazda 6 has just shy of $40k and no issues


1984 Mercedes-Benz 300SD - 100k
1995 F150 XL 4.9 reg cab 5MT - 251k 5w30
2016 Mazda6 Touring 6MT - 57k 10w30
2006 Buick Lucerne CXL 3.8 31k 5w30
Re: Mazda 3 and 6? [Re: Bhoppy1216] #4488508
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I own a 2007. 2nd owner. Got complete records of the original owner. Original clutch. Purchase 3 years ago with 119K. Current at 131K. I know almost 4k a year! When the clutch goes, I'll spend the $$$ to have it replaced. Haven't had to do anything else since the purchase.

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Re: Mazda 3 and 6? [Re: Bhoppy1216] #4488510
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Up until the last handfull of years, Mazda still struggled with rust issues

"Speed" 3/6 had engine issues, they can lean out and blow engines on WOT pulls without preventive HPFP upgrading

What years are you looking at?


'06 Toyota Camry SE V6 3MZ-FE 100k
'01 Mercury Villager Estate VG33E 52k
'06 Ford Taurus SE Vulcan 60k
'13 Chrysler 300 3.6 Pentastar 230k
Re: Mazda 3 and 6? [Re: Bhoppy1216] #4488511
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Great cars, I would consider one if they were what I wanted in a car. There are random things that will go depending on the engine. Clutches either go out right away or last forever, all depends on the driver. I think I sell more body parts than hard parts for them.


2014 Ford Mustang GT Track Pack
1995 Ford Mustang GT

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Re: Mazda 3 and 6? [Re: michaelluscher] #4488516
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Bhoppy1216 Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: michaelluscher
Up until the last handfull of years, Mazda still struggled with rust issues

"Speed" 3/6 had engine issues, they can lean out and blow engines on WOT pulls without preventive HPFP upgrading

What years are you looking at?


I was thinking 2009-2013 range I plan to buy used

Re: Mazda 3 and 6? [Re: Bhoppy1216] #4488556
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I don't have any experience with pre-Skyactiv Mazdas - but the Skyactiv versions seem to be fine. My 2014 '6 has been great since new (though I can't comment on the clutch issue since mine is an AT).

Pros:
- 40+ MPG hwy is possible
- Zero mechanical issues so far
- Fun to drive

Cons:
- Needs more power
- Backseat area is too small (seriously, have you seen the size of rear-facing car seats lately? THAT is why SUVs are so popular, you can't fit a [censored] rear-facing car seat into a normal sized sedan anymore. When people start having babies and figure out the infant car seats don't fit in their average sized sedans, it's off to go look at SUVs).

Last edited by danthaman1980; 08/14/17 05:23 PM.

2003 Chevy Silverado 1500 5.3 LS Quadrasteer ~230,000 miles; M1 0W-30

2014 Mazda6 Sport 2.5 Skyactiv ~40,000 miles; M1 AFE 0W-20
Re: Mazda 3 and 6? [Re: Bhoppy1216] #4488557
08/14/17 05:20 PM
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My wife had a 2012 Mazda3 with a stick and the clutch never posed a problem and she gave it the torture test visiting her parents in NYC/Brooklyn.


Wife: 15' Audi A4 quattro 6 speed manual
Me: 13' VW GTI 3 door 6 speed manual
Re: Mazda 3 and 6? [Re: danthaman1980] #4488628
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Originally Posted By: danthaman1980
I don't have any experience with pre-Skyactiv Mazdas - but the Skyactiv versions seem to be fine. My 2014 '6 has been great since new (though I can't comment on the clutch issue since mine is an AT).

Pros:
- 40+ MPG hwy is possible
- Zero mechanical issues so far
- Fun to drive

Cons:
- Needs more power
- Backseat area is too small (seriously, have you seen the size of rear-facing car seats lately? THAT is why SUVs are so popular, you can't fit a [censored] rear-facing car seat into a normal sized sedan anymore. When people start having babies and figure out the infant car seats don't fit in their average sized sedans, it's off to go look at SUVs).

Yup. I took my niece and my sister somewhere and I had to move my seat into an uncomfortable position because that dang car seat was huge.


1984 Mercedes-Benz 300SD - 100k
1995 F150 XL 4.9 reg cab 5MT - 251k 5w30
2016 Mazda6 Touring 6MT - 57k 10w30
2006 Buick Lucerne CXL 3.8 31k 5w30
Re: Mazda 3 and 6? [Re: danthaman1980] #4488656
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Originally Posted By: danthaman1980
.. you can't fit a [censored] rear-facing car seat into a normal sized sedan anymore. When people start having babies and figure out the infant car seats don't fit in their average sized sedans, it's off to go look at SUVs).

Our rear facing baby seat fits just fine in my 2007 Honda Accord. It does fill all the available space but it's not a problem.


2000 BMW 528i 5MT
2007 Honda Accord EX-L 4Door V6 6MT
Re: Mazda 3 and 6? [Re: Bhoppy1216] #4488731
08/14/17 08:32 PM
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Had a 2007 Mazda 3. Original clutch started slipping at 175,000 miles. The only weak point on the car was the suspension.


Greggy D.

Re: Mazda 3 and 6? [Re: Bhoppy1216] #4488765
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CR heavily advertises that generation; both 2.5l and 3.7l are proven and long lasting engines; I'd get 2013 if I were you;

Last edited by miden851; 08/14/17 09:19 PM.

2008 Mazda6i GT; @202K miles
2016 Honda CR-V EX-L; @33K miles
Re: Mazda 3 and 6? [Re: Bhoppy1216] #4488777
08/14/17 09:36 PM
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While my Mazda 6 is too new to comment on clutch longevity, I did have a 2004 Mazda 3s with the 2.5. It was a fantastic car, the only problem I ever had was replacing the motor mounts once. I sold it with 130k and the clutch was still right as rain. I regretted selling that car for years. It's still one of my favorite cars that I've owned.

If you get the MZR engines, the 2.0 gets great mileage but is kind of a dog. The 2.5 is perhaps the best sounding/feeling 4-cylinder in a modern economy car... at least on par with the Hondas I have driven. However, it tends to be on the thirstier side for a four-banger.


2014 Honda Odyssey EX-L/RES: 54K mi, M1 0w-40 & FU, VCMuzzler V2
2017 Mazda 6 Touring 6MT: 22k mi, M1 AFE 0w20, OEM Filter
Re: Mazda 3 and 6? [Re: Bhoppy1216] #4488960
08/15/17 06:28 AM
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For mazda 3, at about 120k expect to do struts and wheel bearings. My 06 is an AT so I can't comment about the clutch.
For the first gen mazda 3 (04-09), I would get the 2.0l engine instead of 2.3l. The 2.3l has a a cartridge oil filter and a plastic housing. The housing is known to crack easily when over torqued, followed by a quick loss of oil. Most of the engine failures reported on Mazda Forums were caused by the cracked housing.
The 2.3 also has a counterbalance shaft that is known to fail. Not to mention it's quite thirsty for the displacement and HP it produces.

The second gen (10-13) was really a refresh, but the 2.3l was replaced with a much better 2.5l engine and from 2012, you could get a 2.0l Skyactive engine in mazda 3. So that gen can be had with 2.0l, 2.5l and 2.0l Skyactive, which is a direct injection engine. But the smiley face look is not for everyone, although in darker colors it's much less pronounced.

The 3rd gen (2014 to present) is an all new design done solely by Mazda. The other two gens shared a lot of parts with Ford. From what I read, these are also very solid economy vehicles.


2015 Dodge Grand Caravan-27k miles.
2006 Mazda 3-163k miles
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