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Recommended OCI per time #4487191
08/13/17 10:22 AM
08/13/17 10:22 AM
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NC, USA
spencerdiesel Offline OP
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Hey all. When my 1st gen Cummins was my daily driver it was averaging 22-24k miles per year. I run pretty close to ideal driving conditions: 35 miles each way to work, 80% highway. Running delo 400 15w40 w/ Donaldson dbl filter I was changing oil about every 8k (early I know) or 5 months.

Now that I'm driving the Tacoma daily and the dodge only gets driven twice a week, it will only see 8-10k per year. With modern oils having no problem going 15k + miles these days, does the 6-8 month time for OCI's still stand? With my driving conditions are the acidic problems from long time OCI's a concern?

Should I stick to 8 month max OCI for the dodge, or could I stretch it more? Thanks

Re: Recommended OCI per time [Re: spencerdiesel] #4487205
08/13/17 10:37 AM
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I just did a 3.6 year 1,150 mi OCI on my 2000 ford 7.3L. Sample was fine. I can post it when I get home of you're interested.


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Re: Recommended OCI per time [Re: spencerdiesel] #4487207
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Change it once a year on a nice day ...

Re: Recommended OCI per time [Re: 4WD] #4487268
08/13/17 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted By: 4WD
Change it once a year on a nice day ...


... and don't forget to lube the chassis?

That's obsolete advice. It's been quite a while since many manufacturers have switched to a two year maximum time, and it's easy to see that being extended further with existing high TBN oils.

Re: Recommended OCI per time [Re: djb] #4487285
08/13/17 12:19 PM
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It's actually the same mileage or up to 2k more and a step change in what he has been doing - why don't you offer your plan and not consider this guy deals with change like most of us do ...

Re: Recommended OCI per time [Re: spencerdiesel] #4487340
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spencerdiesel Offline OP
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Thanks ya'll, Madibob I would be curious to see the sample from that run, that is quite a while

Re: Recommended OCI per time [Re: madibob] #4487391
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Originally Posted By: madibob
I just did a 3.6 year 1,150 mi OCI on my 2000 ford 7.3L. Sample was fine. I can post it when I get home of you're interested.


I'd also like to see that. Also interested in knowing if it's a short tripper or just sits around between longer drives

Re: Recommended OCI per time [Re: spencerdiesel] #4487458
08/13/17 03:15 PM
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You have UOA, so the better answer is no one knows! For all you know, you have a leaky injector or fouled out O2 sensor, etc. Without UOA you can't tell and often times an engine won't throw a CEL.

Re: Recommended OCI per time [Re: spencerdiesel] #4487728
08/13/17 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted By: spencerdiesel
Hey all. When my 1st gen Cummins was my daily driver it was averaging 22-24k miles per year. I run pretty close to ideal driving conditions: 35 miles each way to work, 80% highway. Running delo 400 15w40 w/ Donaldson dbl filter I was changing oil about every 8k (early I know) or 5 months.

Now that I'm driving the Tacoma daily and the dodge only gets driven twice a week, it will only see 8-10k per year. With modern oils having no problem going 15k + miles these days, does the 6-8 month time for OCI's still stand? With my driving conditions are the acidic problems from long time OCI's a concern?

Should I stick to 8 month max OCI for the dodge, or could I stretch it more? Thanks



You didn't specify but I'll presume the driving route will be nearly the same, just less trips due to using the Tacoma. So it still will get a good heat cycle when driven, right?

I'd say OFCI once a year. You could probably safely push past that, but you'd have to run UOAs to extend out past 10k miles. Pick a decent dino lube and good filter, change once a year, and worry about something else.

I've got an upcoming UOA from my Dmax; 3 years and 12k miles, but I'll not have it for a few months yet (to be changed this fall).


The act of preventative maintenance, in and of itself, is FAR MORE important than brand/grade/base choices among lubes and filters.
- under maintaining something is akin to abuse/neglect; that can kill equipment by shortening the lifespan
- over maintaining something has never been proven to be anything but a waste of time and money
Re: Recommended OCI per time [Re: spencerdiesel] #4487897
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Correct, the truck sees extended periods of operation at full temp. I make sure any time it is driven it reaches sustained operating temp

Re: Recommended OCI per time [Re: spencerdiesel] #4487959
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Originally Posted By: spencerdiesel
Correct, the truck sees extended periods of operation at full temp. I make sure any time it is driven it reaches sustained operating temp


I haven't changed the oil in my Cummins since 2011. Oil doesn't get old just sitting.
When I start it, it gets to full operating temp and goes on a highway drive - no short trips.
I'll probably change it when it gets to 10,000 miles.


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: Recommended OCI per time [Re: spencerdiesel] #4497564
08/25/17 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted By: spencerdiesel
Thanks ya'll, Madibob I would be curious to see the sample from that run, that is quite a while


Posted it today:
[url=https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4497558#Post4497558][/url]


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