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Because I Can Part II #4486666
08/12/17 03:43 PM
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Red91 Offline OP
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12 quarts SJ Castrol Heavy Duty 30wt
24 quarts CF/SJ Mobil Delvac 1230 30wt


'89 Chevy 1500
Supertech 20/50
'15 Chevy Cruze
AcDelco syn dexos 5/30
Re: Because I Can Part II [Re: Red91] #4486678
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Sorry I missed it. What is the big thrill with 30 weight oil.
Not that it is an issue.

Re: Because I Can Part II [Re: Red91] #4486684
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I'm gonna guess it's because the bomb proof 50's design doesn't care what you feed it. In a world full of highly advanced, tight tolerance smog motors, there is something refreshing about that. When you turn the key, it just goes.


'16 Mercedes C300 -M1 5w40 formula M, OE filter
'03 Ford Excursion 7.3 PSD -Schaeffer 9000 5w40, Donaldson ELF7405
Re: Because I Can Part II [Re: amcguru] #4486705
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Originally Posted By: amcguru
I'm gonna guess it's because the bomb proof 50's design doesn't care what you feed it. In a world full of highly advanced, tight tolerance smog motors, there is something refreshing about that. When you turn the key, it just goes.



There was no plastic in the 50's cars save for the bakelite steering wheel or whatever it was made from.


Cannot see signatures any longer so it doesn’t matter.
Re: Because I Can Part II [Re: Red91] #4486726
08/12/17 05:12 PM
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I see you're a fan of Del Monte fruit in a can - nice.


2001 Ford F-150 XLT 4x4 5.4L V8 ~132k miles
-> PPHM 5w-20 w/Fram Ultra
1989 Chevrolet Camaro RS 5.0L TBI V8 ~48k miles
-> Milesyn SB 5w-30 w/Puro Boss
Re: Because I Can Part II [Re: Red91] #4486729
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Free Team Hat grin

Re: Because I Can Part II [Re: Red91] #4486741
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Delvac dropped their 1330 so Red91 had to buy 1230 or 1630, which might only be available in 208 liter drums.
Castrol free hat.

Re: Because I Can Part II [Re: userfriendly] #4486768
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Red91 Offline OP
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How do you like the 1230? This is old stock, and at the time the CF/SJ spec was current.


'89 Chevy 1500
Supertech 20/50
'15 Chevy Cruze
AcDelco syn dexos 5/30
Re: Because I Can Part II [Re: AirgunSavant] #4486773
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Red91 Offline OP
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Less overall wear than multigrade and shear resistant.


'89 Chevy 1500
Supertech 20/50
'15 Chevy Cruze
AcDelco syn dexos 5/30
Re: Because I Can Part II [Re: Red91] #4486791
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Originally Posted By: Red91




12 quarts SJ Castrol Heavy Duty 30wt
24 quarts CF/SJ Mobil Delvac 1230 30wt

Sure that Delvac 1230 isn't CF-2? The PDS for the modern 1230 shows a TBN of only 5.8, that will deplete fairly quickly in a gas engine, it's intended for 2 stroke DD diesels.


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Re: Because I Can Part II [Re: Red91] #4486804
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Red91; I'm down to my last 4.5 liters of 1330 from a 20L pail I opened in March. Two changes on a 13 matrix and one on a 3 5.3L GMC 1500.
Mono-grade season will be over in the great white north in 8 weeks. I can use up the last of the SAE30 with either 10w30 or 15w40 1300.

I've used Duron 30 and 40 in both my 06 & 11 Duramax, P1200 Zn1350, which is about the same as Delo 400 30 'n 40. In a gasoline engine above say 20F, your 1230 CF-2 might be the ultimate engine oil. HTHS 3.5-3.7 NOACK likely 2-4% I've used HD30 & 40 Castrol in motorcycles, VW Beetles and their 10W40 motorcycle went in my JD 22 hp tractor for a couple of years.
20w50 Castrol MC would be a way around the California oil law.
I read your UOA. What's not to like about your SAE30 program?

Edit as per the last post; TBN or now just "BN" retention, depletion rate is just as important as the BN of the fresh oil.

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Re: Because I Can Part II [Re: bullwinkle] #4486874
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The labeling indentifies the Delvac as a mixed fleet oil suitable for diesel and gasoline engines. Even with the CF-2 spec listed in addition to the CF/SJ spec, I don't believe the 1230 to be a dedicated Detroit two stroke oil,such as Delo 100.


'89 Chevy 1500
Supertech 20/50
'15 Chevy Cruze
AcDelco syn dexos 5/30
Re: Because I Can Part II [Re: userfriendly] #4486880
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Red91 Offline OP
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Below twenty degree F days are exceedingly rare down here. The Delo 400 30wt did fine early last winter (2016), as has the Kendall GT-1 30wt in the latter half of the season (2017).


'89 Chevy 1500
Supertech 20/50
'15 Chevy Cruze
AcDelco syn dexos 5/30
Re: Because I Can Part II [Re: Red91] #4486916
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I'm not understanding the shear resistant part. 5w30 after 6,300 miles in my GDI engine and it kept in grade perfectly fine. Also, wear metals were 1/2 of the average.


2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.4L 88k Motorcraft Synthetic Blend 5w30 & OEM
2000 Toyota Camry 2.2L 231k Valvoline 5w30 & Fram Ultra
1996 Jeep Cherokee 4.0L 147k Mobil 1 HM 10w40 & Fram Ultra
Re: Because I Can Part II [Re: Nick1994] #4486921
08/12/17 09:16 PM
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Red91 Offline OP
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I don't care.


'89 Chevy 1500
Supertech 20/50
'15 Chevy Cruze
AcDelco syn dexos 5/30
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