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Let's Talk Gun Safes. #4486154
08/11/17 09:10 PM
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Nashville, TN via Memphis
john_pifer Offline OP
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What do you have? What do you like/dislike about it?

What do you recommend?

What are some features to look for?

I've never owned one. I need one.


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Re: Let's Talk Gun Safes. [Re: john_pifer] #4486184
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Save for a nice one, don't impulse buy. Buy larger than you think.
Consult the Mrs. and get something she can use too.

I've been trying to buy a top of the line Liberty for about 10 years now. Keep moving or having kids and putting it off.
Do as I say not as I do... I know.

If it was just me I'd get a huge FatBoy and call it a day.

Re: Let's Talk Gun Safes. [Re: john_pifer] #4486198
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I stash my guns in secret spots in the house. Don't have any youngins to worry about. I prefer stealth over cement.

Some people recommend Tractor Supply for safes.

A safe is heavy and heavy duty.

A cabinet is light and light duty.


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Re: Let's Talk Gun Safes. [Re: john_pifer] #4486199
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A 30 gun safe won't hold 30 guns. I went with a classic mechanical rotary lock rather than a keypad after reading about people not being able to get into their keypad safes and having to call the manufacturer, etc. Glitches happen, don't need it on my safe.


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Re: Let's Talk Gun Safes. [Re: john_pifer] #4486245
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I've got a 5 gun, bough off ebay, and bolted to the floor and walls, from the inside. Does the job, and is legal...it's a keypad, but there's a plastic cover that you can prise off to use a key.

Oz the safe needs to be more than 330lbs, or bolted to the structure of the house with 4 off half inch fixtures that aren't available to be unbolted without the safe being open.

Has passed the two yearly police inspections.

Before that I had a huge Gal toolbox, bolted to the floor, three padlockes, and a foam structure that made it look like a sofa...that passed inspection also.

Re: Let's Talk Gun Safes. [Re: john_pifer] #4486267
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A smart thief will get into a gun safe in just a few minutes they know not to attack the door of the safe that is to difficult so they either cut the top or sides open (Ask me how I know!) The best thing to do is to put the safe into a wall that makes it much more difficult to get into you want to make a thief attack the door. You must bolt it to the floor if a thief can get it on its back they can usually pry it open but will most likely just cut the steel out of the bottom and get your guns. The more money you spend on a quality safe the more time it usually takes to get into it.

Look into Sturdy Safe and watch the videos. Again an expierence thief will get into your safe with time but you can make it much more difficult. Bolt it to the floor and set into a wall if it's a quality safe and you make them attack the door it can be quite difficult.

Re: Let's Talk Gun Safes. [Re: Camprunner] #4486270
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Originally Posted By: Camprunner
(Ask me how I know!)


How do you know?

Re: Let's Talk Gun Safes. [Re: john_pifer] #4486275
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I have an AMSEC BF6636 & like it. Its a big box with a locking door.

Re: Let's Talk Gun Safes. [Re: john_pifer] #4486280
08/12/17 04:34 AM
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I have a Liberty safe. You cannot possibly go wrong with a Liberty.

Go larger than what you think you need. Figure the realistic capacity is half of what the advertised capacity is.

Re: Let's Talk Gun Safes. [Re: billt460] #4486283
08/12/17 04:50 AM
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john_pifer Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: billt460
Originally Posted By: Camprunner
(Ask me how I know!)


How do you know?


LOL, indeed, how DO you know?

Thanks guys. Keep the info coming. I'll probably go by a few local stores today to get an idea of how large I want to go.

The one thing that sucks is, I live in apartment, so, this thing WILL have to be moved a couple of times. That's OK though. All part of the deal.


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Re: Let's Talk Gun Safes. [Re: john_pifer] #4486285
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I have several but I did not pick them. Gifts!
When you have many guns you dedicate rooms to them and get a great policy from a company that specializes in guns and not your homeowners. And surprisingly it isn't very expensive to get.

As an example one company I used three years ago was $100 a year per $100k of gun insurance.
Now $300k was $300 a year and no further discounts but that was a great deal.

Only the guns worth over $10k had to be logged. The rest were covered without any other paperwork.

Re: Let's Talk Gun Safes. [Re: john_pifer] #4486305
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Originally Posted By: john_pifer
The one thing that sucks is, I live in apartment, so, this thing WILL have to be moved a couple of times. That's OK though. All part of the deal.


You may want to check into moving costs BEFORE you buy. Many people don't discuss this. The places that sell them will many times lure customers in with, "free delivery and placement" in order to make the sale. But in moving them you're pretty much on your own. These things are very HEAVY, and somewhat clumsy. And unless you are an experienced safe mover with the proper equipment, they can be very dangerous to move. A lot of these guys aren't insured. And if one gets away from them, there can be a lot of damage. Not to mention someone getting hurt.

Sometimes, depending on the move, (up and down stairs, longer distances, etc.), they can wind up costing almost more to move than many of them are worth. Think pool tables. (Many homes come with them because they're too expensive to bother moving). Also you might want to check with your landlord about the weight, along with where it can be located. Most places that sell these things don't get into all of this. Yet it's something that most everyone who ends up buying one or more of these things, has to end up dealing with.

Re: Let's Talk Gun Safes. [Re: billt460] #4486308
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Absolutely. Great post
Like me I have to move this stuff on my own.
I had a customer that was a gun safe freak.
Problem is he had high grade guns and he about destroyed them all taking them in and out of the safe far too often.
I guess he had smaller safes and he really ruined some great guns

Re: Let's Talk Gun Safes. [Re: billt460] #4486350
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Originally Posted By: billt460
Originally Posted By: Camprunner
(Ask me how I know!)


How do you know?


A few years ago I had purchased a gun safe and come to find out the guy right next door that helped me move it into my house was involved with several thieves that targeted gun safes in the county. My safe was hit and cut into from the top they found nothing! Once a year I give my guns a total cleaning and the night before I brought them over to my parents so my dad could help me. Anyway the guy next door and the other men were caught and he is doing two years.

Re: Let's Talk Gun Safes. [Re: john_pifer] #4486354
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I have a nice Liberty. AMSEC makes a better safe but they aren't as pretty to look at which can be a factor depending where you put it. Any safe you buy under $10,000 can be broken into with a gas powered chop saw in minutes so keep that in mind. Bolting them down does slow the thieves down and will keep the meth addicts looking for an easy score out but if someone wants in, they can get in.

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