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thoughts on a KIA #4485591
08/11/17 10:34 AM
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gotnogunk Offline OP
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I am looking for a new or slightly used car thinking Avalon, but the KIA Cadenza looks good. JD Powers gives KIA a good rating anyone have a long term history, above 150,000, with their cars and want to share their thoughts.

Re: thoughts on a KIA [Re: gotnogunk] #4485602
08/11/17 10:47 AM
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Ontario, Canada
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For a used car, I'd look up the specific model's reliability, JD powers brand rating is only useful to guess how well a new model may be put together.
We are considering a newer used Sorrento and I haven't found too much wrong with them yet.


07 Focus ZXW, 5spd manual, 230km M1 5W30
18 Outback 2.5 CVT 22km 0W20
Re: thoughts on a KIA [Re: gotnogunk] #4485607
08/11/17 10:52 AM
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I'd steer clear, but that's just me. I've read too many articles about Kia early engine failures not being taken care of under warranty.

I know someone who is on their third engine in less than 30,000 miles whistle


Thick vs Thin test: 15k / 43k miles complete
Re: thoughts on a KIA [Re: gotnogunk] #4485608
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If you're into resale value, go with the Avalon. Other than that, both vehicles are very nice, reliable cars. You won't go wrong with either.


18 KIA Sportage 2.4 AWD
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 10W30, OEM

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Re: thoughts on a KIA [Re: gotnogunk] #4485612
08/11/17 10:56 AM
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If the Cadenza comes with the V-6, that eliminates the engine concerns that went with the 4 cylinder Kia/Hyundai models. A friend of mine likes his Cadenza.


2017 Honda Odyssey SE, 18K
2013 Honda Accord LX, 59K
2007 Honda Ridgeline RTS, 89K
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Re: thoughts on a KIA [Re: gotnogunk] #4485661
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I have a Kia Rondo that's 10 years old and 125,000, runs fine. If you use 5w20 like on the cap you'll need to add some between changes. 5w30, the level hardly moves on the dipstick and none added between changes.


2012 Hyundai Sonata GLS 6MT 2.4GDI, ProDS 10w30, XG9688 filter, 2018 Mitsubishi Outlander SEL 2.4 CVT, Factory fill still.
Re: thoughts on a KIA [Re: NormanBuntz] #4485664
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Originally Posted By: NormanBuntz
If the Cadenza comes with the V-6, that eliminates the engine concerns that went with the 4 cylinder Kia/Hyundai models. A friend of mine likes his Cadenza.


Bingo!

Kia/Hyundai have old-school, reliable tech in their flagship vehicles for good reason (reliability).

For that reason alone, I'd go with either the Cadenza or the Azera offering the v6 as they are NOT turbo, nor direct injection. Actually, C&D rates the Cadenza much higher than the Azera, so good choice on the Cadenza

thumbsup


06 Lexus IS350- Wife
88 BMW 325is- Mistress
Say "no" to Turbo!
Re: thoughts on a KIA [Re: Lolvoguy] #4485684
08/11/17 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted By: Lolvoguy
Originally Posted By: NormanBuntz
If the Cadenza comes with the V-6, that eliminates the engine concerns that went with the 4 cylinder Kia/Hyundai models. A friend of mine likes his Cadenza.


Bingo!

Kia/Hyundai have old-school, reliable tech in their flagship vehicles for good reason (reliability).

For that reason alone, I'd go with either offering a v6 as they are NOT turbo, nor direct injection.
thumbsup

The V6 is a DI, but has been around for 7 years now in lots of KIA/Hyundai vehicles. The only problems I can find about it are valve deposits, but I don't know if its worse than most DI engines.


07 Focus ZXW, 5spd manual, 230km M1 5W30
18 Outback 2.5 CVT 22km 0W20
Re: thoughts on a KIA [Re: gotnogunk] #4485687
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Had an 04 Serinto, worst car I have ever owned.
Poor mileage and engine took a dump at 60k.


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Re: thoughts on a KIA [Re: gotnogunk] #4485701
08/11/17 12:46 PM
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I have heard Kia has made big strides towards making world class cars .

But I have no personal experience with them .

Cousin of ours bought a new Kia 4 banger with turbo , earlier in the year . But they have not had it long enough to really know anything long term .

Best of luck , :-)
Wyr
God bless


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Re: thoughts on a KIA [Re: Neely97] #4485709
08/11/17 12:56 PM
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Northern Ontario, Canada
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Originally Posted By: Neely97
Had an 04 Serinto, worst car I have ever owned.
Poor mileage and engine took a dump at 60k.

Honda had [censored] cars in the '70s as well, so your point is?


2016 Sorento SX V6 AWD
2015 KIA RIO SX
2010 Mazda 3 2.0L
2009 Venza V6 AWD
2013 Sonata 2.4L RIP in write-off crash
Re: thoughts on a KIA [Re: gotnogunk] #4485713
08/11/17 12:57 PM
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Is Sonata is the same league? Better looking car to me ...

Re: thoughts on a KIA [Re: gotnogunk] #4485719
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No, that's smaller and comparable to a Camry/Accord


06 Lexus IS350- Wife
88 BMW 325is- Mistress
Say "no" to Turbo!
Re: thoughts on a KIA [Re: Lolvoguy] #4485724
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CarGuru puts them together - dimensions were close ...

Re: thoughts on a KIA [Re: gotnogunk] #4485734
08/11/17 01:20 PM
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My parents own a MY2014 Kia Sportage, AWD, 6 speed auto, 2.0 CRDi 136hp, DPF fitted. Seems like a tough, robust-made car. But looking closely at details not seen in normal usage, things are bulky. Spare-tire compartment more like a gross octagon, paint job everywhere hidden there's just primer... and even if it's a high trim version with infinity sound system, cruise control, automatic HVAC, sunroof, rear camera and leather seats, generally there's no modern features like electronic power window control for all doors, electric parking brake, OLM or service reminder are missing ... but 3-mode steering wheel assist and TPMS are there ! LOL
And the handsfree key thing sometimes goes "[email protected] while trying to lock the car and you end up losing 2 minutes trying to figure out what you didn't do correctly


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