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Upgrade from Bosch Quietcast Pads--Saab 9-3 #4484421
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I have a Saab 9-3 with Bosch Quietcast pads (BP819) on the front. The car stops okay, but I'd like it to be better. What would be an upgrade from these pads?

Re: Upgrade from Bosch Quietcast Pads--Saab 9-3 [Re: ET16] #4484450
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Try Ate, Textar, Jurid, or Pagid pads. They always work very well on BMWs.

edyvw has talked well of the EBC Redstuff pads on his VW (there is a very recent thread in the brake section). Might be worth giving those a try if EBC makes them for your car.

Re: Upgrade from Bosch Quietcast Pads--Saab 9-3 [Re: ET16] #4484451
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New tires


1984 Mercedes-Benz 300SD - 100k
1995 F150 XL 4.9 reg cab 5MT - 251k 5w30
2016 Mazda6 Touring 6MT - 57k 10w30
2006 Buick Lucerne CXL 3.8 31k 5w30
Re: Upgrade from Bosch Quietcast Pads--Saab 9-3 [Re: E150GT] #4484456
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Originally Posted By: E150GT
New tires

Will new tires help with initial bite, feel, or fade?

I like Textar and Pagid.


"Zed's dead baby, Zed's dead."
Re: Upgrade from Bosch Quietcast Pads--Saab 9-3 [Re: ET16] #4484612
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EBC makes good stuff, and Akeboneo is always worth looking at.

Re: Upgrade from Bosch Quietcast Pads--Saab 9-3 [Re: ET16] #4484626
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Originally Posted By: ET16
What would be an upgrade from these pads?


Two pieces of linoleum works better as does a couple of wood blocks, either is an upgrade. ATE, TMD friction (Pagid, Mintex, Textar) the usual Euro brands will be much better than the quietcast, personally I like the ATE for this.


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Re: Upgrade from Bosch Quietcast Pads--Saab 9-3 [Re: ET16] #4484640
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ATE or Textar/Mintex/Pagid. If you can find them, PBR/Axxis seems to work fine.

Re: Upgrade from Bosch Quietcast Pads--Saab 9-3 [Re: rooflessVW] #4484691
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Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
Originally Posted By: E150GT
New tires

Will new tires help with initial bite, feel, or fade?

I like Textar and Pagid.


Of course not but I very well could help the car stop better which is what the OP asked for.


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Re: Upgrade from Bosch Quietcast Pads--Saab 9-3 [Re: ET16] #4484915
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Akebono Euro smile

Re: Upgrade from Bosch Quietcast Pads--Saab 9-3 [Re: slacktide_bitog] #4484930
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Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
Akebono Euro smile


...if you want your car to feel like it has brakes from a Suburban.

Re: Upgrade from Bosch Quietcast Pads--Saab 9-3 [Re: ET16] #4485144
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The "OE" formula pads made by the major European friction brands mentioned are generally regarded as well-rounded performers, albeit at the expense of dust.

Brake pad evaluation is highly subjective, with many facets, so it's hard to make recommendations without something other than "better" as a qualifier.

In that sense, it's very similar to tires, and the objective grading systems like UTQG, while desirable, are limited in scope, helpfulness and are not always reflective of real world performance.

As one example, the "GG" friction code rating should make Akebono Euros the king of all pads, right? Yet that characterization is at distinct odds with the experience of a lot of users, who find that their characteristics cannot be summarized by their friction coefficient taken at two distinct temperatures.

I did much more research than I cared to prior to my last set of new pads, and one thing that was evident is that the Akebonos are polarizing, and are liked more for their low dusting than their performance. Subjectively, they are fine as street pads, but even then, their detractors cited poor "bite" and wooden feel as negatives. Note that the former characteristic would seem at odds with the objective rating, which illustrates the need for caution in relying entirely on the two little letters in choosing a pad.

Throw in the variability of applications, brake designs, and opinions, and it gets even more fun.

Re: Upgrade from Bosch Quietcast Pads--Saab 9-3 [Re: ET16] #4485378
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I got suckered, and installed a set of Bosch QuietCast pads on the front of my Toyota pickup along with a new set of Raybestos rotors a few months ago. They were the loudest screeching brakes I have ever heard in my life. Total junk that I threw in the trash.

Installed a set of Raybestos Professional Grade semi-metallic, and they have been quiet.

Anything would be an upgrade to the Bosch pads! LOL


1992 Toyota Pickup--Formula Shell 10W-30--Fram PH3614
Re: Upgrade from Bosch Quietcast Pads--Saab 9-3 [Re: ET16] #4486659
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Thanks for the advice!

Re: Upgrade from Bosch Quietcast Pads--Saab 9-3 [Re: ET16] #4486777
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I have a set of Bosch Blue's on my wife's scion and they have been outstanding.


'11 Hyundai Sonata GLS
'11 Scion XB
Re: Upgrade from Bosch Quietcast Pads--Saab 9-3 [Re: ET16] #4486954
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Bosch is like SONY. They make everything, from needle to components for Space Shuttle.
You want better initial bite? ATE, Textar, Jurid, TMD (Textar, PAgid, Mintex), EBC Red Stuff or Yellow stuff (be careful: they have amazing initial bite, but noise also). BMW's that dust a lot have very good initial bite. I use now Textar pads instead of BMW pads and there is no difference in bite or dust.
Avoid Akebono at any cost if initial bite is important.

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