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Fram Ultra XG9911 #4484015
08/09/17 07:25 PM
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Ramblejam Offline OP
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The canister Ultra is excellent, but how about these cartridge models? Any current info?

Re: Fram Ultra XG9911 [Re: Ramblejam] #4484030
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Problems have been reported with under-size center holes in the cartridge XG10358. I don't know about XG9911.


2011 Toyota Prius now at 92K
1981 Mazda GLC (323) retired at 606K
1972 Subaru DL retired at 190K
1954 Chevrolet retired at 121K
Re: Fram Ultra XG9911 [Re: Ramblejam] #4484042
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There have been reported issues with the XG9018 not fitting right (but in the 2.2/2.4 Ecotech engines, there are a lot of filters from many manufacturers that have fitment issues).

As far as filtering ability, same as the canister.


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Re: Fram Ultra XG9911 [Re: Ramblejam] #4484045
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I use 9972 on our 2016 Camry I4-no problems.


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Re: Fram Ultra XG9911 [Re: Ramblejam] #4484071
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Thank you for the replies so far.

XG9911 is for the 2.0T and 2.5 VW/Audi cars. Browsing forums, It's all German, all the time when it comes to oils/coolant/filters, with it nearly blasphemous to do otherwise. Just seeing if there's any real reason to deviate from the Ultra, and if the excellent performance offered in the canister version translates over to the cartridge.

Re: Fram Ultra XG9911 [Re: blupupher] #4484075
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Originally Posted By: blupupher
There have been reported issues with the XG9018 not fitting right (but in the 2.2/2.4 Ecotech engines, there are a lot of filters from many manufacturers that have fitment issues).

As far as filtering ability, same as the canister.

Maybe the problem is GM if multiple brands of filters aren't fitting correctly.


2001 Ford F-150 XLT 4x4 5.4L V8 ~132k miles
-> PPHM 5w-20 w/Fram Ultra
1989 Chevrolet Camaro RS 5.0L TBI V8 ~48k miles
-> Milesyn SB 5w-30 w/Puro Boss
Re: Fram Ultra XG9911 [Re: Triton_330] #4484089
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Originally Posted By: Triton_330

Maybe the problem is GM if multiple brands of filters aren't fitting correctly.


That is not how manufacturing works. Aftermarket builds to the car/engine, car/engine is not built to the aftermarket. If the OEM filters are working fine, it is not GM.


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Re: Fram Ultra XG9911 [Re: Ramblejam] #4484091
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Most aftermarket cartridge filters don't fit properly and buckle in service.

Stick to Mann, Mahle, Hengst, or OEM (which is usually one of those three

Re: Fram Ultra XG9911 [Re: Hootbro] #4484110
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Originally Posted By: Hootbro
Originally Posted By: Triton_330

Maybe the problem is GM if multiple brands of filters aren't fitting correctly.


That is not how manufacturing works. Aftermarket builds to the car/engine, car/engine is not built to the aftermarket. If the OEM filters are working fine, it is not GM.

Sorry, I should have put a wink face at the end... my comment was tongue-in-cheek.


2001 Ford F-150 XLT 4x4 5.4L V8 ~132k miles
-> PPHM 5w-20 w/Fram Ultra
1989 Chevrolet Camaro RS 5.0L TBI V8 ~48k miles
-> Milesyn SB 5w-30 w/Puro Boss
Re: Fram Ultra XG9911 [Re: slacktide_bitog] #4484176
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Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
Most aftermarket cartridge filters don't fit properly and buckle in service.
Why do they buckle? Subject to excessive force because of incorrect dimensions?

Other causes could be lack of structural strength to withstand normal spring-loading by the housing (if they're clamped endwise by spring force like my 10358 is), or lack of strength to withstand the pressure gradient.


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1981 Mazda GLC (323) retired at 606K
1972 Subaru DL retired at 190K
1954 Chevrolet retired at 121K

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