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#4482362 - 08/08/17 01:25 AM Liquimoly vs pennzoil platinum /ultra for sludge ?
wantboost Offline


Registered: 11/03/10
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Loc: CA
Is liquimoly help with sludge at all or pp is better?

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#4482367 - 08/08/17 03:29 AM Re: Liquimoly vs pennzoil platinum /ultra for sludge ? [Re: wantboost]
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More information is needed such as year, make and model of vehicle. If you are looking for oils to clean on short oci, expensive oils like the ones you mention are a drain on the wallet. Go with a cheaper Syn blend or a conventional like PYB or Chevron Supreme for short intervals

Have you seen the sludge and if so, how bad?
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#4482405 - 08/08/17 06:26 AM Re: Liquimoly vs pennzoil platinum /ultra for sludge ? [Re: wantboost]
kr_bitog Offline


Registered: 10/06/07
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Loc: South East Asia
Originally Posted By: wantboost
Is liquimoly help with sludge at all or pp is better?


pp or ultra is better for sludge, liquimoly contains mos2 that actually will coat the engine rather than cleaning the sludge

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#4482413 - 08/08/17 06:44 AM Re: Liquimoly vs pennzoil platinum /ultra for sludge ? [Re: wantboost]
KL31 Offline


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No oil will de-slude an engine. They're all pretty good at preventing sludge in the first place but not cleaning it up.

And just to clarify before anyone jumps out, I mean a very sludgy engine will not become 20,30,40,50% less sludgy with just oil changes using some particular oil of choice.

If anyone disagrees and has any before and after pictures to prove, I'd love to see them.
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#4482466 - 08/08/17 08:18 AM Re: Liquimoly vs pennzoil platinum /ultra for sludge ? [Re: wantboost]
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the best way to remove sludge is manually
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#4482467 - 08/08/17 08:19 AM Re: Liquimoly vs pennzoil platinum /ultra for sludge ? [Re: wantboost]
Donald Offline


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Auto-Rx helps in some sludge cases. Not in others. I think a quality synthetic oil will slowly clean an engine that is sludged.
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#4482481 - 08/08/17 08:41 AM Re: Liquimoly vs pennzoil platinum /ultra for sludge ? [Re: wantboost]
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Why would anyone get a car with a sludged engine?

Corner Lot/curbstoner certified auction reject?
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#4482673 - 08/08/17 12:14 PM Re: Liquimoly vs pennzoil platinum /ultra for sludge ? [Re: wantboost]
Linctex Offline


Registered: 12/31/16
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I honestly don't think a lot of sludge does any harm.

flame away....



If an engine is dirty, then YES- use short OCI's.

One thing I HAVE seen with "sludged" engines is that particles of carbon break off over time and find their way into the oil filter - - - which is why it is there.

But, really - - as long as the engine wasn't severely damaged, it will still last a VERY VERY long time as long as you keep up with oil changes from that point forward. And whatever "sludge" is stuck to the inside will very slowly over time fall away, but don't expect ANY overnight miracles with ANY product.
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#4483084 - 08/08/17 08:30 PM Re: Liquimoly vs pennzoil platinum /ultra for sludge ? [Re: wantboost]
BrocLuno Offline


Registered: 09/06/15
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Expensive oils and sludged engine are not usually in the same conversation.

HDEO and a can of BG109 for 3K changes and it'll be cleaner in a year or so ... smile
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#4483130 - 08/08/17 09:17 PM Re: Liquimoly vs pennzoil platinum /ultra for sludge ? [Re: wantboost]
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Registered: 06/29/11
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Loc: Crawfordville FL
Of the three, penzoil platinum. I would run a HDEO for several 2-3k mile intervals. Or PYB does good cleaning in my experience
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#4483736 - 08/09/17 01:45 PM Re: Liquimoly vs pennzoil platinum /ultra for sludge ? [Re: wantboost]
wantboost Offline


Registered: 11/03/10
Posts: 103
Loc: CA
Why hdeo more cleaning agents ??? What's pub?

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#4483740 - 08/09/17 01:48 PM Re: Liquimoly vs pennzoil platinum /ultra for sludge ? [Re: wantboost]
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Registered: 12/30/06
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Loc: Dallas,Tx USA
Originally Posted By: wantboost
What's pub?


It's where you stop by after work on the way home to grab a cold brewski laugh
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#4483750 - 08/09/17 02:00 PM Re: Liquimoly vs pennzoil platinum /ultra for sludge ? [Re: wantboost]
wantboost Offline


Registered: 11/03/10
Posts: 103
Loc: CA
I meant pyb?

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#4483756 - 08/09/17 02:13 PM Re: Liquimoly vs pennzoil platinum /ultra for sludge ? [Re: wantboost]
NO2 Offline


Registered: 09/06/12
Posts: 287
Loc: Michigan
We owned several Toyota sludge prone engines and the insides were pristine even after 150K when using M1 @ 8-10K OCI's back in the day. An engine with thick sludge or blocked passages needs to be cleaned, no amount of oil will unblock small holes. Moderate sludge will dissolve over time with most high quality oils changed frequently.

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#4483779 - 08/09/17 02:48 PM Re: Liquimoly vs pennzoil platinum /ultra for sludge ? [Re: KL31]
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Registered: 06/27/09
Posts: 733
Loc: Hollister, CA
Originally Posted By: KL31
No oil will de-slude an engine. They're all pretty good at preventing sludge in the first place but not cleaning it up.

And just to clarify before anyone jumps out, I mean a very sludgy engine will not become 20,30,40,50% less sludgy with just oil changes using some particular oil of choice.

If anyone disagrees and has any before and after pictures to prove, I'd love to see them.


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