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#4479946 - 08/05/17 01:43 PM Noticed some weird play on the wheel...
NoNameJoe Offline


Registered: 06/03/15
Posts: 417
Loc: New York
So imagine you're looking at a sedan from its passenger side where you can see both wheels, both doors and the fender.

In motion the wheels are only supposed to spin in place (or turn when steering).

While I was watchin someone park this car from the passenger side, I saw the front wheel literally move a few inches toward the front of the car (toward the wheel well liner) and then the back (toward the opposite side). This only happens when braking. The wheel remains pointed straight while this happens.

Before I remove the wheel and start randomly looking around (going to focus on the LCA first), does anyone have a good idea of what would cause this?

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#4479962 - 08/05/17 02:02 PM Re: Noticed some weird play on the wheel... [Re: NoNameJoe]
rooflessVW Offline


Registered: 12/24/11
Posts: 4092
Loc: North Carolina
Thrust arm bushing, lower control arm bushing, or both, depending on suspension design.
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#4479963 - 08/05/17 02:04 PM Re: Noticed some weird play on the wheel... [Re: NoNameJoe]
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Registered: 12/26/05
Posts: 9420
Loc: Upper Midwest
Originally Posted By: NoNameJoe
So imagine you're looking at a sedan from its passenger side where you can see both wheels, both doors and the fender.

In motion the wheels are only supposed to spin in place (or turn when steering).

While I was watchin someone park this car from the passenger side, I saw the front wheel literally move a few inches toward the front of the car (toward the wheel well liner) and then the back (toward the opposite side). This only happens when braking. The wheel remains pointed straight while this happens.

Before I remove the wheel and start randomly looking around (going to focus on the LCA first), does anyone have a good idea of what would cause this?


A "few inches"?? Holy cow, a failure of that magnitude should be quite apparent in a visual inspection. My Accord had a CV shaft failing that moved less than 1/8" and that made both a noise and a visible movement in the hub when inspected. Focus on those components which are intended to restrain forward and aft movement of the hub.

Whatever the cause that is a serious and potentially life-threatening failure.
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#4479967 - 08/05/17 02:11 PM Re: Noticed some weird play on the wheel... [Re: NoNameJoe]
SHOZ Offline


Registered: 06/28/03
Posts: 5751
Loc: Illinois
Bad subframe mount would do this too.
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#4480009 - 08/05/17 03:03 PM Re: Noticed some weird play on the wheel... [Re: NoNameJoe]
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Registered: 10/23/05
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Loc: Colorado
Oooh take a video. THIS I gotta see
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#4480015 - 08/05/17 03:08 PM Re: Noticed some weird play on the wheel... [Re: NoNameJoe]
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Registered: 12/31/16
Posts: 6178
Loc: Waco, TX
Sounds like a rubber bushing some where in the front suspension rotted out and disappeared.
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#4480121 - 08/05/17 06:13 PM Re: Noticed some weird play on the wheel... [Re: NoNameJoe]
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Registered: 06/15/03
Posts: 32671
Loc: ME
My mercedes w123 does this. Its suspension is fairly weird and doesn't have lower ball joints/ control arms below spindle level. Disconcerting when I torque lug nuts on the ground and the wheel rolls slightly (not inches tho)

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#4480351 - 08/05/17 11:33 PM Re: Noticed some weird play on the wheel... [Re: eljefino]
L_Sludger Offline


Registered: 10/04/09
Posts: 3947
Loc: Ohio
Originally Posted By: eljefino
My mercedes w123 does this. Its suspension is fairly weird and doesn't have lower ball joints/ control arms below spindle level. Disconcerting when I torque lug nuts on the ground and the wheel rolls slightly (not inches tho)

Skip to 0:42 on this video
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