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Old flares #4479831
08/05/17 11:36 AM
08/05/17 11:36 AM
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Donald Offline OP
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I was looking for something in my boat and noticed all of my old flares were split open with their inside powder showing. I knew they were old and would not pass as "required flares" but did not expect them to fall apart.


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Re: Old flares [Re: Donald] #4479872
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must have been pretty old. I used flares recently that were at least 6 years old.


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Re: Old flares [Re: Donald] #4479912
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Donald Offline OP
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I am thinking I really do not need flares if I go on the Hudson or Conn. river and it's less than 2 miles wide. I will


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Re: Old flares [Re: Donald] #4479988
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Burn 'em in a brush pile.

They can't handle much, if ANY moisture.


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Re: Old flares [Re: Donald] #4480025
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Originally Posted By: Donald
I am thinking I really do not need flares if I go on the Hudson or Conn. river and it's less than 2 miles wide. I will


Coast Guard requires flares, don't they?

New ones are maybe $4/each.

I don't understand the problem.


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Re: Old flares [Re: ArcticDriver] #4480039
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Donald Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: ArcticDriver
Originally Posted By: Donald
I am thinking I really do not need flares if I go on the Hudson or Conn. river and it's less than 2 miles wide. I will


Coast Guard requires flares, don't they?

New ones are maybe $4/each.

I don't understand the problem.


The flares are required basically in the ocean or great lakes or waters leading to the ocean that are over two miles wide.


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Re: Old flares [Re: Donald] #4480041
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They are a little under $30 for 3 and expire in about 3 years.


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Re: Old flares [Re: Donald] #4480130
08/05/17 06:37 PM
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We took our split flares and lighted them in the street (ecologically neutral site-but the ecology hadn't been invented yet) with a Bernz-O-Matic torch.
...54 years ago. sniff-sniff

Re: Old flares [Re: Donald] #4481957
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Originally Posted By: Donald
Originally Posted By: ArcticDriver
Originally Posted By: Donald
I am thinking I really do not need flares if I go on the Hudson or Conn. river and it's less than 2 miles wide. I will


Coast Guard requires flares, don't they?

New ones are maybe $4/each.

I don't understand the problem.


The flares are required basically in the ocean or great lakes or waters leading to the ocean that are over two miles wide.


Thanks. I don't fish in ponds so I didn't realize. ;-)

Why skimp on safety equipment...on all the things I can name worth being cheap about, safety is not one of them.

Or can the OP and his crew all swim 0.99 miles in frigid fresh water?

I can't.


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Re: Old flares [Re: ArcticDriver] #4482038
08/07/17 05:31 PM
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Donald Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: ArcticDriver
Originally Posted By: Donald
Originally Posted By: ArcticDriver
Originally Posted By: Donald
I am thinking I really do not need flares if I go on the Hudson or Conn. river and it's less than 2 miles wide. I will


Coast Guard requires flares, don't they?

New ones are maybe $4/each.

I don't understand the problem.


The flares are required basically in the ocean or great lakes or waters leading to the ocean that are over two miles wide.


Thanks. I don't fish in ponds so I didn't realize. ;-)

Why skimp on safety equipment...on all the things I can name worth being cheap about, safety is not one of them.

Or can the OP and his crew all swim 0.99 miles in frigid fresh water?

I can't.


Actually using a plain flare on a boat is ugly. They drip hot slag that will melt fiberglass. You need to attach it to a boat hook and hold it overboard.

I have a flare pistol which I prefer. They also sell a USCG approved flashing light.

As for safety I have more fire extinguishers than required and have a fixed and handheld VHF radios.

Many people go boating with only a cell phone. Good luck calling the guy you can see in the distance with a cell phone.


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Re: Old flares [Re: Linctex] #4503155
08/31/17 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted By: Linctex
Burn 'em in a brush pile.

They can't handle much, if ANY moisture.


+1 They are a sponge for moisture. Considering the cost it is worth grabbing a few more. Especially if you are going to be boating on patrolled waters. Our boat is on Saranac Lake which hasn't seen a patrol in over 10 years. That aside I would always make sure you have the right equipment for an emergency


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