Chevron on filtering down past the 5 micron level

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From the article below-
"We spend a lot of time talking to customers about the importance of lubricant cleanliness. It seems we cannot emphasize enough the measures you can and should take to reduce the risk of particle contamination to protect equipment.


Apparently, our message is getting through – so much so, in fact, that we hear this type of request from customers all the time: “Okay, I want my new or in-service oil filtered to five microns.”

What’s encouraging about this statement is that the customer clearly recognizes the need for clean filtered oil. However, it’s also a prime example of a customer not fully understanding filtration and cleanliness. Literally removing all particles larger than five microns would be very difficult and very expensive, and perhaps not even possible based on the formulation of the lubricant."


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It sounds like this oil "expert" isn't aware of a Baldwin, Frantz, or other bypass filter system. The Baldwin set up on my 2010 Toyota RAV4 4cyl. is under $100.00 and the Frantz on my daughters 2003 Toyota 4Runner 6 cyl. is under $200.
 
The brief summary in the link seems to be referring to machinery lubrication (and another clue is mentioning Noria, which is a machinery lubrication specialist) rather than motor vehicles. Although there are obvious similarities, there are also considerable differences between, say, a machine performing some task in a manufacturing plant, or a lubricating pump in some similar industrial capacity, and internal combustion engines.

I don't find much value in the CHEVRON summary, although I do thank the OP for the link. Noria has considerable information on the subject, for those interested. But it's not about cars.
 
But the extreme care about filtering down to a few microns really only applies to expensive diesel engines.

Your gas powered car can go 200k miles using decent oil and filters. No need for a bypass filter.

Soon it will be electric cars.

People will say I remember when I was a kid they had cars powered by gasoline.
 
Indeed - I'm watching the tugs on the ICW today - they need maximum up time on those mid sized diesels ... We are running even larger engines - and to rebuild one can mean a partial shut down. Industrial lubricant arms of oil companies deal with this to mining, to massive ships, to cement plants ... you name it. That's another World ...
 
Originally Posted By: Balrog006
From the article below-
"We spend a lot of time talking to customers about the importance of lubricant cleanliness. It seems we cannot emphasize enough the measures you can and should take to reduce the risk of particle contamination to protect equipment.


Apparently, our message is getting through – so much so, in fact, that we hear this type of request from customers all the time: “Okay, I want my new or in-service oil filtered to five microns.”

What’s encouraging about this statement is that the customer clearly recognizes the need for clean filtered oil. However, it’s also a prime example of a customer not fully understanding filtration and cleanliness. Literally removing all particles larger than five microns would be very difficult and very expensive, and perhaps not even possible based on the formulation of the lubricant."


5 micron filtering Chevron


Some nonsense here. Bypass filters routinely get just about all the 5 micron particles out. Even a non-bypass Fram Ultra is 80% multipass effective at 5 microns.

Notice the crazy "based on the formulation of the lubricant" statement. Huh?

I think I see the problem here: The author is not an engineer, he is a business-marketing pro.
"About the Author (Author Profile)
Jason is currently the Americas ISOCLEAN business development manager for Chevron Lubricants, where he has held various marketing and sales positions since 2001. He has more than 20 years of experience in the lubricants and fuel industry, holding various positions in operations management, marketing, and sales. His primary passion and focus has been in the construction and mining industry, which includes experiences in equipment management for a heavy highway construction company. He holds a B.S. degree in Business Marketing from the University of Wyoming and has been recognized by the Society of Tribologists and Lubricant Engineers as a Certified Lubricant Specialist and Oil Monitoring Analyst."
 
Originally Posted By: oil_film_movies
Originally Posted By: Balrog006
From the article below-
"We spend a lot of time talking to customers about the importance of lubricant cleanliness. It seems we cannot emphasize enough the measures you can and should take to reduce the risk of particle contamination to protect equipment.


Apparently, our message is getting through – so much so, in fact, that we hear this type of request from customers all the time: “Okay, I want my new or in-service oil filtered to five microns.”

What’s encouraging about this statement is that the customer clearly recognizes the need for clean filtered oil. However, it’s also a prime example of a customer not fully understanding filtration and cleanliness. Literally removing all particles larger than five microns would be very difficult and very expensive, and perhaps not even possible based on the formulation of the lubricant."


5 micron filtering Chevron


Some nonsense here. Bypass filters routinely get just about all the 5 micron particles out. Even a non-bypass Fram Ultra is 80% multipass effective at 5 microns.

Notice the crazy "based on the formulation of the lubricant" statement. Huh?

I think I see the problem here: The author is not an engineer, he is a business-marketing pro.
"About the Author (Author Profile)
Jason is currently the Americas ISOCLEAN business development manager for Chevron Lubricants, where he has held various marketing and sales positions since 2001. He has more than 20 years of experience in the lubricants and fuel industry, holding various positions in operations management, marketing, and sales. His primary passion and focus has been in the construction and mining industry, which includes experiences in equipment management for a heavy highway construction company. He holds a B.S. degree in Business Marketing from the University of Wyoming and has been recognized by the Society of Tribologists and Lubricant Engineers as a Certified Lubricant Specialist and Oil Monitoring Analyst."

That seems to come from Chevron quite a bit, I'm always getting "informational" emails from Rommel Alenza (sp?) from Chevron, they're usually marketing fluff, no real information in them.
 
Originally Posted By: Donald
But the extreme care about filtering down to a few microns really only applies to expensive diesel engines.

Your gas powered car can go 200k miles using decent oil and filters. No need for a bypass filter.

In my experience they can go a lot farther than that.
 
Originally Posted By: oil_film_movies

I think I see the problem here: The author is not an engineer, he is a business-marketing pro.


Message from Chevron: "Change your oil often, always buy Chevron Oil"
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