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2014 Hyundai Accent: Oil suggestions? #4479388
08/04/17 09:32 PM
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Hi all-

Love the site. As a car nerd and technician I love the wealth of information.

I dug around as much as I could, but I didn't see much related to this particular engine. I plan to purchase my father's '14 Hyundai Accent next spring. It's got the 1.6 GDi engine and 6mt transmission. I need something easier on the wallet than the 16 mpg pig I drive right now, as much as I love my beast.

Anyhow, he's owned the car since brand new. It's only ever been serviced by me, and he's religious about intervals. It's run nothing but 5w20 full synthetic since it was new. Unfortunately, I'm not able to go with him when be buys supplies, but it's almost always been Pennzoil Platinum with either a Bosch or STP filter. Bosch more often than not. He's not hard on the car at all, it's currently got around 65k and has been running 5k OCI's since new.

My '03 Marauder, on the other hand, has had a steady diet of Amsoil 5w40 european blend, until recently I switched to Amsoil full synthetic 5w30. 5k intervals. It used less than a half quart of either oil over the course of a cycle, and it almost always comes out still golden(ish). This is funning cheapy FVP filters that I pay $1.61 cost for at work. Don't bash me, the thing has 209k miles on it and that 4.6 purrs like the day it was new. I'm NOT easy on it. It actually amazes me how strong these modular motors are.

Last oil change, I noticed that the Hyundai's oil was BLACK. This car has been perfectly maintained, and granted I don't see many DI engines come through my shop, but his seemed darker than I'm comfortable with. It doesn't consume any, just seems dirtier than it should be.

So what say you, oil gods? I'd like to get a jummp on getting this engine clean well before I purchase it.

Last edited by 14Accent; 08/04/17 09:36 PM.

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Re: 2014 Hyundai Accent: Oil suggestions? [Re: 14Accent] #4479397
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Any major brand of oil that meets the manufacturers spec will do fine in that Hyundai.


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Re: 2014 Hyundai Accent: Oil suggestions? [Re: 14Accent] #4479401
08/04/17 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted By: 14Accent
Hi all-

Love the site. As a car nerd and technician I love the wealth of information.

I dug around as much as I could, but I didn't see much related to this particular engine. I plan to purchase my father's '14 Hyundai Accent next spring. It's got the 1.6 GDi engine and 6mt transmission. I need something easier on the wallet than the 16 mpg pig I drive right now, as much as I love my beast.

Anyhow, he's owned the car since brand new. It's only ever been serviced by me, and he's religious about intervals. It's run nothing but 5w20 full synthetic since it was new. Unfortunately, I'm not able to go with him when be buys supplies, but it's almost always been Pennzoil Platinum with either a Bosch or STP filter. Bosch more often than not. He's not hard on the car at all, it's currently got around 65k and has been running 5k OCI's since new.

My '03 Marauder, on the other hand, has had a steady diet of Amsoil 5w40 european blend, until recently I switched to Amsoil full synthetic 5w30. 5k intervals. It used less than a half quart of either oil over the course of a cycle, and it almost always comes out still golden(ish). This is funning cheapy FVP filters that I pay $1.61 cost for at work. Don't bash me, the thing has 209k miles on it and that 4.6 purrs like the day it was new. I'm NOT easy on it. It actually amazes me how strong these modular motors are.

Last oil change, I noticed that the Hyundai's oil was BLACK. This car has been perfectly maintained, and granted I don't see many DI engines come through my shop, but his seemed darker than I'm comfortable with. It doesn't consume any, just seems dirtier than it should be.

So what say you, oil gods? I'd like to get a jummp on getting this engine clean well before I purchase it.

DI engines make more soot. This makes for black oil


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Re: 2014 Hyundai Accent: Oil suggestions? [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4479404
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+1 to what SilverFusion stated here. Spot on.


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Re: 2014 Hyundai Accent: Oil suggestions? [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4479406
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Originally Posted By: SilverFusion2010

DI engines make more soot. This makes for black oil


Makes sense, I guess I didn't notice it before. When he comes in for a change I'm usually in a hurry and not paying that close of attention anyways.


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Re: 2014 Hyundai Accent: Oil suggestions? [Re: 14Accent] #4479410
08/04/17 09:55 PM
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I think to maintain the warranty Hyundai requires an msg free oil & a kimchi filter.

Re: 2014 Hyundai Accent: Oil suggestions? [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4479413
08/04/17 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted By: SilverFusion2010
Originally Posted By: 14Accent
Hi all-

Love the site. As a car nerd and technician I love the wealth of information.

I dug around as much as I could, but I didn't see much related to this particular engine. I plan to purchase my father's '14 Hyundai Accent next spring. It's got the 1.6 GDi engine and 6mt transmission. I need something easier on the wallet than the 16 mpg pig I drive right now, as much as I love my beast.

Anyhow, he's owned the car since brand new. It's only ever been serviced by me, and he's religious about intervals. It's run nothing but 5w20 full synthetic since it was new. Unfortunately, I'm not able to go with him when be buys supplies, but it's almost always been Pennzoil Platinum with either a Bosch or STP filter. Bosch more often than not. He's not hard on the car at all, it's currently got around 65k and has been running 5k OCI's since new.

My '03 Marauder, on the other hand, has had a steady diet of Amsoil 5w40 european blend, until recently I switched to Amsoil full synthetic 5w30. 5k intervals. It used less than a half quart of either oil over the course of a cycle, and it almost always comes out still golden(ish). This is funning cheapy FVP filters that I pay $1.61 cost for at work. Don't bash me, the thing has 209k miles on it and that 4.6 purrs like the day it was new. I'm NOT easy on it. It actually amazes me how strong these modular motors are.

Last oil change, I noticed that the Hyundai's oil was BLACK. This car has been perfectly maintained, and granted I don't see many DI engines come through my shop, but his seemed darker than I'm comfortable with. It doesn't consume any, just seems dirtier than it should be.

So what say you, oil gods? I'd like to get a jummp on getting this engine clean well before I purchase it.

DI engines make more soot. This makes for black oil



How does this 'soot' get produced in a DI engine? I'm not doubting you but just wondering why?


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Re: 2014 Hyundai Accent: Oil suggestions? [Re: pbm] #4479481
08/05/17 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted By: pbm

How does this 'soot' get produced in a DI engine? I'm not doubting you but just wondering why?


From what I have been reading, it's a problem with fuel atomization droplets.

It's so bad in DI cars, that the rumor is they will need DPF's (just like diesels)!



Along with bad intake valve deposits and oil dilution problems, it's Weird to think we've stepped backwards with this "technology"


Last edited by Linctex; 08/05/17 01:01 AM.

"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: 2014 Hyundai Accent: Oil suggestions? [Re: 14Accent] #4479484
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Swiss team concludes that particulate filters should be mandatory for GDI engines
24 May 2017

http://www.greencarcongress.com/2017/05/20170524-gdi.html


http://www.greencarcongress.com/2013/10/20131016-maricq.html
However, unlike conventional gasoline engines, gasoline direct injection engines produce particulate matter, as do diesels, and emission controls will become an issue the technology must address as standards for particle mass tighten, and also as standards for particle numbers emerge.

Particulate matter = soot


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: 2014 Hyundai Accent: Oil suggestions? [Re: Linctex] #4479485
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oooops... double post

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"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: 2014 Hyundai Accent: Oil suggestions? [Re: 14Accent] #4479503
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Had a 2012 Hyundai Accent and run 5w30 PUP in in it with no issue. Use no ethanol gas and a bottle of Gumout Regane before each oil change.


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Re: 2014 Hyundai Accent: Oil suggestions? [Re: Linctex] #4479541
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Originally Posted By: Linctex

Swiss team concludes that particulate filters should be mandatory for GDI engines
24 May 2017

http://www.greencarcongress.com/2017/05/20170524-gdi.html


http://www.greencarcongress.com/2013/10/20131016-maricq.html
However, unlike conventional gasoline engines, gasoline direct injection engines produce particulate matter, as do diesels, and emission controls will become an issue the technology must address as standards for particle mass tighten, and also as standards for particle numbers emerge.

Particulate matter = soot


Geez, makes me glad I have good old port injection


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Re: 2014 Hyundai Accent: Oil suggestions? [Re: 14Accent] #4479543
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Re: 2014 Hyundai Accent: Oil suggestions? [Re: 14Accent] #4479571
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I highly recommend using the OEM filter. Built like a tank and gives the proper oil pressures.


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Re: 2014 Hyundai Accent: Oil suggestions? [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4479594
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Originally Posted By: 14Accent
Originally Posted By: SilverFusion2010

DI engines make more soot. This makes for black oil

Makes sense, I guess I didn't notice it before. When he comes in for a change I'm usually in a hurry and not paying that close of attention anyways.


Originally Posted By: SilverFusion2010


Quote:
Unhealthy soot
Confirmation of the hazard comes via a recent study conducted by researchers at Oak Ridge National Laboratorys (ORNL) Fuels, Engines and Emissions Research Center who found that sample GDI engines emit five to 10 times more particulate matter than their PFI counterparts.

Can a dual rated HDEO CJ4/SM SN do a cleaning up of residual soots .?

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