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Redesigned Fram Tough Guard Oil Filters #4478966
08/04/17 11:37 AM
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Was buying stuff on Walmart.com & needed to spend $5.00 more to get free shipping, so I threw a tough guard filter on the order. I notice on the box it says with high mileage protection. Here is a picture of the new Tough Guard filter box. Did they merge the Fram High Mileage & Tough Guard into one filter now?

Re: Redesigned Fram Tough Guard Oil Filters [Re: tech230] #4478973
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"with HIGH MILEAGE PROTECTION" is a pretty nondescript claim.
The TGs have been rated for 10k miles for quite some time.
I doubt they have changed anything except for marketing words.


The act of preventative maintenance, in and of itself, is FAR MORE important than brand/grade/base choices among lubes and filters.
- under maintaining something is akin to abuse/neglect; that can kill equipment by shortening the lifespan
- over maintaining something has never been proven to be anything but a waste of time and money
Re: Redesigned Fram Tough Guard Oil Filters [Re: tech230] #4478977
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I don't see the "10,000 Miles" on the box anymore, unless it's in the fine print.

Re: Redesigned Fram Tough Guard Oil Filters [Re: tech230] #4478986
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It's probably a blend media


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Re: Redesigned Fram Tough Guard Oil Filters [Re: tech230] #4479014
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I saw the new filters at walmart today. They still had a few old ones so I compared old with new. They look exactly identical except different font and font color on the filter. Of course, the media could be different, but we will have to wait for someone to cut one open.

The price went up a bit compared to the old ones.


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Re: Redesigned Fram Tough Guard Oil Filters [Re: tech230] #4479022
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Typical Fram, always about the cardboard. grin


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Re: Redesigned Fram Tough Guard Oil Filters [Re: tech230] #4479023
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Curious if they went to louvers yet.

And if it has a mystery goo pellet inside, I'll never buy another one.

Re: Redesigned Fram Tough Guard Oil Filters [Re: tech230] #4479028
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Fram's website:
http://www.fram.com/oil-filters/fram-tough-guard-oil-filter/?altTemplate=mobileproduct

Says:
"Blending synthetic fibers with cellulose increases a filter's dirt-trapping efficiency and its dirt-holding capacity for higher levels of engine protection and longer filter life."

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Originally Posted By: Bottom_Feeder
Curious if they went to louvers yet.

And if it has a mystery goo pellet inside, I'll never buy another one.

Fram still shows the High Mileage filter, so no goo pellet in the TG.

http://www.fram.com/categoryproductlist.aspx?catid=1124

Re: Redesigned Fram Tough Guard Oil Filters [Re: dishdude] #4479036
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Originally Posted By: dishdude
Typical Fram, always about the cardboard. grin


And marketing. Fram has always been good at selling.


yup
Re: Redesigned Fram Tough Guard Oil Filters [Re: tech230] #4479056
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Sweet! I thought Walmart was discontinuing my TGs.

Don't care what they use if it stays the same in the end result.

Couldnt care less about louvers.


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Re: Redesigned Fram Tough Guard Oil Filters [Re: JeepWJ19] #4479070
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Originally Posted By: JeepWJ19
Sweet! I thought Walmart was discontinuing my TGs.

Don't care what they use if it stays the same in the end result.

Couldnt care less about louvers.

I thought Walmart got rid of them too. I'm glad they didn't though. I usually buy either a Tough Guard or a Ultra. I stock up on Ultras when I find a good deal on them.

Re: Redesigned Fram Tough Guard Oil Filters [Re: tech230] #4479167
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I guess they were clearing out the old ones???

Need to run by my local WM and see, was in OK City this last week and did not see any "new" TG filters on the shelves (but the stores I checked were almost cleaned out of the $3 ones).

Sad that I visit Walmarts in other states looking for deals.


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Re: Redesigned Fram Tough Guard Oil Filters [Re: tech230] #4479174
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Can confirm. I was in WM and some person was in my way shopping for Fram's so I couldn't get a good look, but the TGs were indeed back on the shelf. Saw the beautiful grey boxes. When WM stopped stocking the TGs almost all the Fram brands were taken. Just three whole rows cleared except for a few scraggling behind (Ultras and Orange cans).

They also in my WM started selling M1 filters


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Re: Redesigned Fram Tough Guard Oil Filters [Re: JeepWJ19] #4479176
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To blupupher: It's good to shop while traveling to see differences among states and regions.

Now if you made a special trip seeking old stock deals....that would be sad. You're not sad.

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