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Accord oil filter from Napa #4478883
08/04/17 09:21 AM
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aquariuscsm Offline OP
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What does anyone know about this filter? It looks identical to the Honda OEM one.

https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/ATM2OHD001


1996 Nissan 300ZX 5-speed,Arctic Pearl(#175 of 300)
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 10W30
2012 Honda Accord Coupe EX-L 2.4,auto,San Marino Red
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 5W20

Re: Accord oil filter from Napa [Re: aquariuscsm] #4478885
08/04/17 09:29 AM
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I used that brand filter on my wife's Crosstrek. When I removed it, a bunch of oil came spilling out, much more than usual. Upon inspection, I found out the reason oil spilled out is because the anti-drainback valve failed and all of the oil in the filter drained out, when it should've stayed in the filter. The valve was actually loose and had no tension to hold the oil back. I definitely will not be using those filters any more.


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1992 Honda Accord EX
2004 Honda CR-V LX
1994 Ford Bronco XLT (project)
2011 Cadillac Escalade ESV (wife's)
Re: Accord oil filter from Napa [Re: aquariuscsm] #4478898
08/04/17 09:51 AM
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1/2 hr N.E. of Detroit
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I noticed your pic shows a silicone ADBV. So what's the difference between it and the NAPA Gold?


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Re: Accord oil filter from Napa [Re: aquariuscsm] #4478910
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Here's a link to a thread on topic Full oil filter. 'Appears' to be solid construction, afaik a coo of China. Filter element doesn't look like either the A01 or A02 Honda oem. Classic metal endcap construction.

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4393752/1

And no relationship to Napa Gold filters.


Re: Accord oil filter from Napa [Re: Sayjac] #4478920
08/04/17 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted By: Sayjac
Here's a link to a thread on topic Full oil filter. 'Appears' to be solid construction, afaik a coo of China. Filter element doesn't look like either the A01 or A02 Honda oem. Classic metal endcap construction.

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4393752/1

And no relationship to Napa Gold filters.



Nice,thanks!

I looked at the Fram TG the other day and they just look really sloppy. I've been looking at alternatives to the OEM's if I don't feel like driving to the Honda dealership.


1996 Nissan 300ZX 5-speed,Arctic Pearl(#175 of 300)
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 10W30
2012 Honda Accord Coupe EX-L 2.4,auto,San Marino Red
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 5W20

Re: Accord oil filter from Napa [Re: aquariuscsm] #4478957
08/04/17 11:28 AM
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Get a Napa Silver or Gold. They are $4.99 and $7.49 respectively for most Honda's.


2010 Honda Civic LX
Valvoline SynPower 5w-20 - Honda oil filter
58,500 miles
Re: Accord oil filter from Napa [Re: aquariuscsm] #4478974
08/04/17 11:52 AM
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You're using a top tier oil, so why not a top tier filter? Couple more bucks for an Ultra and you know what your getting.

Re: Accord oil filter from Napa [Re: aquariuscsm] #4478985
08/04/17 12:11 PM
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aquariuscsm Offline OP
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Anyone have pics of the Ultra for Honda apps?


1996 Nissan 300ZX 5-speed,Arctic Pearl(#175 of 300)
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 10W30
2012 Honda Accord Coupe EX-L 2.4,auto,San Marino Red
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 5W20

Re: Accord oil filter from Napa [Re: aquariuscsm] #4479246
08/04/17 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm

I looked at the Fram TG the other day and they just look really sloppy.


??? what do you mean?


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Re: Accord oil filter from Napa [Re: aquariuscsm] #4479258
08/04/17 07:24 PM
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What drains are you gonna run on this thing?
I do drains after the MM hits 15% on mine and even saw 10% once. The little wrench illuminating at 15% on every start does get annoying. This equates to 8-9K in our use of this Accord and I ran the FF 8700 miles to 15% MM, since Honda was pretty adamant in recommending that the FF be run for a full normal interval.
I have a tight and clean looking engine after 71K of this, so I can't see changing any sooner.
I'd use a premium filter, like the Ultra, M1 or white body K&N, all of which I've used in this car when I could get a deal on them.
The OEM oil filters are known for low efficiency as well as for holding up to the two drain FCIs Honda recommends for this car, although I've never run an oil filter for two OCIs.
Filter efficiency is probably academic, since after break-in there isn't much to filter out.
Posts about how Brand X filter had a failed ADBV probably aren't important since you'll find an occasional bum filter in the productions runs of any brand and since the engine in your car has the filter installed base end up and perfectly perpendicular to the ground, it probably doesn't matter at all.
If you're going to go to MM limits, I'd recommend an Ultra or M1. If you're going to do short drains, then almost any oil filter will do IMHO.


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Re: Accord oil filter from Napa [Re: fdcg27] #4479340
08/04/17 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted By: fdcg27
or white body K&N

I'm fairly certain that the K&N (black) PS-xxxx and (white) HP-xxxx have the same filter media, and that the only difference is that the HP has that nut on the end for "easier removal." I don't think it's worth the extra money to buy the HP unless you necessarily need the nut for easier removal.


2001 Ford F-150 XLT 4x4 5.4L V8 ~132k miles
-> PPHM 5w-20 w/Fram Ultra
1989 Chevrolet Camaro RS 5.0L TBI V8 ~48k miles
-> Milesyn SB 5w-30 w/Puro Boss
Re: Accord oil filter from Napa [Re: Linctex] #4479440
08/04/17 11:09 PM
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aquariuscsm Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: Linctex
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm

I looked at the Fram TG the other day and they just look really sloppy.


??? what do you mean?


I took it out of the box and looked it over really well. The media pleats through the holes were very unevenly spaced and not symmetrical,the adbv wasn't lined up straight,and just basically looked slapped together and cheaply constructed. Really lightweight and flimsy. But,the TG's for my Nissan always look perfect,as I've used many of them. I compared it to an M1 side by side and the M1 was much more precisionly constructed.


1996 Nissan 300ZX 5-speed,Arctic Pearl(#175 of 300)
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 10W30
2012 Honda Accord Coupe EX-L 2.4,auto,San Marino Red
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 5W20

Re: Accord oil filter from Napa [Re: fdcg27] #4479441
08/04/17 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted By: fdcg27
What drains are you gonna run on this thing?
I do drains after the MM hits 15% on mine and even saw 10% once. The little wrench illuminating at 15% on every start does get annoying. This equates to 8-9K in our use of this Accord and I ran the FF 8700 miles to 15% MM, since Honda was pretty adamant in recommending that the FF be run for a full normal interval.
I have a tight and clean looking engine after 71K of this, so I can't see changing any sooner.
I'd use a premium filter, like the Ultra, M1 or white body K&N, all of which I've used in this car when I could get a deal on them.
The OEM oil filters are known for low efficiency as well as for holding up to the two drain FCIs Honda recommends for this car, although I've never run an oil filter for two OCIs.
Filter efficiency is probably academic, since after break-in there isn't much to filter out.
Posts about how Brand X filter had a failed ADBV probably aren't important since you'll find an occasional bum filter in the productions runs of any brand and since the engine in your car has the filter installed base end up and perfectly perpendicular to the ground, it probably doesn't matter at all.
If you're going to go to MM limits, I'd recommend an Ultra or M1. If you're going to do short drains, then almost any oil filter will do IMHO.


I've always been a 3/3k guy.


1996 Nissan 300ZX 5-speed,Arctic Pearl(#175 of 300)
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 10W30
2012 Honda Accord Coupe EX-L 2.4,auto,San Marino Red
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 5W20

Re: Accord oil filter from Napa [Re: aquariuscsm] #4479446
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Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Anyone have pics of the Ultra for Honda apps?


Google the following search string:

bobistheoilguy site: xg7317

Re: Accord oil filter from Napa [Re: ZeeOSix] #4479457
08/04/17 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Anyone have pics of the Ultra for Honda apps?


Google the following search string:

bobistheoilguy site: xg7317


Thanks! thumbsup


1996 Nissan 300ZX 5-speed,Arctic Pearl(#175 of 300)
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 10W30
2012 Honda Accord Coupe EX-L 2.4,auto,San Marino Red
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 5W20

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