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#4478641 - 08/03/17 10:24 PM PYB good for 7000 highway miles?
GOPHER FREAK Offline


Registered: 04/17/06
Posts: 89
Loc: Minneapolis, MN
Looking for opinions. I have a 2011 Ford Fusion I use to make weekly long highway runs (500 mi roundtrips). My last run I went the by the OLM and changed at 22% remaining and about 7000 miles. By far the longest I've ever gone on an conventional. Is PYB 5-20 good for that? Car has 100K and runs perfect. The car had a steady diet of Motorcraft syn blend before I got it and is in perfect condition. I might send in for an UOA, but for the $25 it costs I'll just change the oil, so I'm looking for gut reactions. Car has very little city and no traffic/stop and go driving. Just 80mph interstate.
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2003 Chevrolet Suburban Z71 5.3L 241,000 miles- PYB 5w30
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#4478646 - 08/03/17 10:41 PM Re: PYB good for 7000 highway miles? [Re: GOPHER FREAK]
zeng Offline


Registered: 09/01/15
Posts: 2187
Loc: Malaysia
It's good to go ... considering your driving pattern and it's likely a blend.

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#4478655 - 08/03/17 11:00 PM Re: PYB good for 7000 highway miles? [Re: GOPHER FREAK]
TheOilWizard Offline


Registered: 06/02/16
Posts: 105
Loc: US
PYB meets the Ford spec, so you could safely follow the iOLM as you would with Mororcraft.

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#4478658 - 08/03/17 11:11 PM Re: PYB good for 7000 highway miles? [Re: GOPHER FREAK]
SirTanon Offline


Registered: 06/23/14
Posts: 2152
Loc: Phoenix, Arizona - USA
My 2010 Fusion has over 236,000 miles, and I regularly run 7,500 miles, or more, on oils that are on par with PYB. I wouldn't even think twice about running well over 7,000 miles on it. PYB is a very stout oil, and by many accounts, contains a good percentage of synthetic oil.
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#4478669 - 08/03/17 11:50 PM Re: PYB good for 7000 highway miles? [Re: GOPHER FREAK]
xtell Offline


Registered: 12/13/06
Posts: 520
Loc: ohio
PYB is a good choice as far as conventional oil. Lots of used oil tests show it is good for longer oil change intervals.

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#4478687 - 08/04/17 01:17 AM Re: PYB good for 7000 highway miles? [Re: SirTanon]
Linctex Offline


Registered: 12/31/16
Posts: 6148
Loc: Waco, TX
Originally Posted By: SirTanon
I wouldn't even think twice about running well over 7,000 miles on it. PYB is a very stout oil,


And you shouldn't, either.

Run it all the way to 0% ... you won't be hurting ANYTHING. It's all good.
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#4478713 - 08/04/17 04:25 AM Re: PYB good for 7000 highway miles? [Re: GOPHER FREAK]
Merkava_4 Offline


Registered: 01/30/07
Posts: 17501
Loc: Clovis, CA
Depends on whether you want varnish or not. At 7000 miles, you're going to get varnish.

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#4478740 - 08/04/17 06:03 AM Re: PYB good for 7000 highway miles? [Re: GOPHER FREAK]
pbm Offline


Registered: 04/19/04
Posts: 7598
Loc: New York
I think you are fine running PYB for 7K. You don't say if you have the 4 or 6 cylinder engine but the 2.5 in my Escape (4 cyl.) has a 5.7 qt. oil capacity...that's a lot of oil which should make 7K easily doable,

PS: I seriously doubt you'll get any varnish with so much highway miles.

I just saw that you have a 3.0 (6 cyl.) from your signature. Except for my comments on the 2.5, everything else I've said applies....your 3.0 will run nearly forever with your type driving and changing PYB at 22% OLM....


Edited by pbm (08/04/17 06:07 AM)
Edit Reason: saw 3.0 in signature
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#4478746 - 08/04/17 06:20 AM Re: PYB good for 7000 highway miles? [Re: GOPHER FREAK]
SilverFusion2010 Offline


Registered: 06/29/11
Posts: 1657
Loc: Crawfordville FL
Originally Posted By: GOPHER FREAK
Looking for opinions. I have a 2011 Ford Fusion I use to make weekly long highway runs (500 mi roundtrips). My last run I went the by the OLM and changed at 22% remaining and about 7000 miles. By far the longest I've ever gone on an conventional. Is PYB 5-20 good for that? Car has 100K and runs perfect. The car had a steady diet of Motorcraft syn blend before I got it and is in perfect condition. I might send in for an UOA, but for the $25 it costs I'll just change the oil, so I'm looking for gut reactions. Car has very little city and no traffic/stop and go driving. Just 80mph interstate.





I've run PYB to 7500 miles. It was actually the first change after I bought the car from the rental fleet or where ever it came from. When I drained the PYB I got some bits of sludge out too. It'll be fine.
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#4478756 - 08/04/17 06:31 AM Re: PYB good for 7000 highway miles? [Re: GOPHER FREAK]
WobblyElvis Offline


Registered: 09/23/14
Posts: 1343
Loc: Toronto Canada
Under the described conditions I go at least 10,000 miles on conventional oil.

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#4478779 - 08/04/17 06:56 AM Re: PYB good for 7000 highway miles? [Re: GOPHER FREAK]
zeng Offline


Registered: 09/01/15
Posts: 2187
Loc: Malaysia
At 10,000 miles, that's entirely plausible.

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#4478780 - 08/04/17 06:57 AM Re: PYB good for 7000 highway miles? [Re: GOPHER FREAK]
bigt61 Offline


Registered: 02/12/13
Posts: 3117
Loc: Virginia
If you're following the OLM and keeping it topped off - you're good to go.
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#4478805 - 08/04/17 07:43 AM Re: PYB good for 7000 highway miles? [Re: GOPHER FREAK]
AirgunSavant Offline


Registered: 07/22/15
Posts: 3772
Loc: MD
I ran 5w20 PYB at 8k intervals on 2 liter and 3 oci's on a Ultra filter
No add oil, no varnish and no issue. I followed up with PUP and no cleanup happened.
So that is no issue.

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#4478820 - 08/04/17 08:10 AM Re: PYB good for 7000 highway miles? [Re: GOPHER FREAK]
AirgunSavant Offline


Registered: 07/22/15
Posts: 3772
Loc: MD
I would say that you may be paying too much for PYB and if so you can go with a FS. for cheaper with wise shopping.
Just a thought.

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#4478868 - 08/04/17 09:06 AM Re: PYB good for 7000 highway miles? [Re: GOPHER FREAK]
Errtt Offline


Registered: 11/14/10
Posts: 2806
Loc: California
I been using PYB in the DD since around 55k, has 132k now. Went to PYB back then and seems a lot of good UOAs so I figured why not try it. Seems robust. Although my Hyundai book recommends Quaker State and the fill cap has 5w-20, I've had no issues with PYB 5w-30. I do 5k OCIs (easy to remember) although by the book I can go up to 7.5k and the book does not state synthetic. 4-cylinder 5-qts 95%+ highway.


On & off I've had the itch to try something else (MaxLife, maybe MagnaTec, try Pennzoil synthetic), but just haven't been able to pull myself away from the PYB... yet. Maybe someday (have a couple jugs left). Maybe I should stay with PYB and not worry about it.

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