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PYB good for 7000 highway miles? #4478641
08/03/17 10:24 PM
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GOPHER FREAK Offline OP
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Looking for opinions. I have a 2011 Ford Fusion I use to make weekly long highway runs (500 mi roundtrips). My last run I went the by the OLM and changed at 22% remaining and about 7000 miles. By far the longest I've ever gone on an conventional. Is PYB 5-20 good for that? Car has 100K and runs perfect. The car had a steady diet of Motorcraft syn blend before I got it and is in perfect condition. I might send in for an UOA, but for the $25 it costs I'll just change the oil, so I'm looking for gut reactions. Car has very little city and no traffic/stop and go driving. Just 80mph interstate.


2002 Dodge Ram 1500 4x4 4.7L auto. 165,000 miles
2011 Ford Fusion SE 3.0L 125,000 miles


Re: PYB good for 7000 highway miles? [Re: GOPHER FREAK] #4478646
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It's good to go ... considering your driving pattern and it's likely a blend.

Re: PYB good for 7000 highway miles? [Re: GOPHER FREAK] #4478655
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PYB meets the Ford spec, so you could safely follow the iOLM as you would with Mororcraft.

Re: PYB good for 7000 highway miles? [Re: GOPHER FREAK] #4478658
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My 2010 Fusion has over 236,000 miles, and I regularly run 7,500 miles, or more, on oils that are on par with PYB. I wouldn't even think twice about running well over 7,000 miles on it. PYB is a very stout oil, and by many accounts, contains a good percentage of synthetic oil.


2010 Ford Fusion SE - 2.5 liter/6F35 Trans - 262,000mi
2014 Nissan Altima SL - 2.5 liter/CVT - 57,000mi
Re: PYB good for 7000 highway miles? [Re: GOPHER FREAK] #4478669
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PYB is a good choice as far as conventional oil. Lots of used oil tests show it is good for longer oil change intervals.

Re: PYB good for 7000 highway miles? [Re: SirTanon] #4478687
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Originally Posted By: SirTanon
I wouldn't even think twice about running well over 7,000 miles on it. PYB is a very stout oil,


And you shouldn't, either.

Run it all the way to 0% ... you won't be hurting ANYTHING. It's all good.


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Re: PYB good for 7000 highway miles? [Re: GOPHER FREAK] #4478713
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Depends on whether you want varnish or not. At 7000 miles, you're going to get varnish.

Re: PYB good for 7000 highway miles? [Re: GOPHER FREAK] #4478740
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I think you are fine running PYB for 7K. You don't say if you have the 4 or 6 cylinder engine but the 2.5 in my Escape (4 cyl.) has a 5.7 qt. oil capacity...that's a lot of oil which should make 7K easily doable,

PS: I seriously doubt you'll get any varnish with so much highway miles.

I just saw that you have a 3.0 (6 cyl.) from your signature. Except for my comments on the 2.5, everything else I've said applies....your 3.0 will run nearly forever with your type driving and changing PYB at 22% OLM....

Last edited by pbm; 08/04/17 06:07 AM. Reason: saw 3.0 in signature

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Re: PYB good for 7000 highway miles? [Re: GOPHER FREAK] #4478746
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Originally Posted By: GOPHER FREAK
Looking for opinions. I have a 2011 Ford Fusion I use to make weekly long highway runs (500 mi roundtrips). My last run I went the by the OLM and changed at 22% remaining and about 7000 miles. By far the longest I've ever gone on an conventional. Is PYB 5-20 good for that? Car has 100K and runs perfect. The car had a steady diet of Motorcraft syn blend before I got it and is in perfect condition. I might send in for an UOA, but for the $25 it costs I'll just change the oil, so I'm looking for gut reactions. Car has very little city and no traffic/stop and go driving. Just 80mph interstate.





I've run PYB to 7500 miles. It was actually the first change after I bought the car from the rental fleet or where ever it came from. When I drained the PYB I got some bits of sludge out too. It'll be fine.


2010 Ford Fusion SE 3.0L V6, 178k miles M1 HM 10w-30
Re: PYB good for 7000 highway miles? [Re: GOPHER FREAK] #4478756
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Under the described conditions I go at least 10,000 miles on conventional oil.

Re: PYB good for 7000 highway miles? [Re: GOPHER FREAK] #4478779
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At 10,000 miles, that's entirely plausible.

Re: PYB good for 7000 highway miles? [Re: GOPHER FREAK] #4478780
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If you're following the OLM and keeping it topped off - you're good to go.


92 Suburban 2500 7.4L 58k M1_0w40 5yr OCI
99 Olds Aurora 4.0L 91K M1_5w30 5yr OCI
13 Dodge Dart 2.0L 30k PP 0w20 OLM OCI
70 Camaro 5.7L 59k
Re: PYB good for 7000 highway miles? [Re: GOPHER FREAK] #4478805
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I ran 5w20 PYB at 8k intervals on 2 liter and 3 oci's on a Ultra filter
No add oil, no varnish and no issue. I followed up with PUP and no cleanup happened.
So that is no issue.

Re: PYB good for 7000 highway miles? [Re: GOPHER FREAK] #4478820
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I would say that you may be paying too much for PYB and if so you can go with a FS. for cheaper with wise shopping.
Just a thought.

Re: PYB good for 7000 highway miles? [Re: GOPHER FREAK] #4478868
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I been using PYB in the DD since around 55k, has 132k now. Went to PYB back then and seems a lot of good UOAs so I figured why not try it. Seems robust. Although my Hyundai book recommends Quaker State and the fill cap has 5w-20, I've had no issues with PYB 5w-30. I do 5k OCIs (easy to remember) although by the book I can go up to 7.5k and the book does not state synthetic. 4-cylinder 5-qts 95%+ highway.


On & off I've had the itch to try something else (MaxLife, maybe MagnaTec, try Pennzoil synthetic), but just haven't been able to pull myself away from the PYB... yet. Maybe someday (have a couple jugs left). Maybe I should stay with PYB and not worry about it.

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