Recent Topics
Oil For High Sustained RPM on BMW S52
by ZEK
Yesterday at 10:41 PM
Chevy brought the blazer back
by WiskyBadger
Yesterday at 10:07 PM
LC20 and uses in modern motor oil
by synman
Yesterday at 10:01 PM
Full Synthetic CJ-4 or > 5W-30 or 10W-30
by LeTempt
Yesterday at 09:57 PM
2018 RAM 1500 EcoDiesel
by OVERKILL
Yesterday at 08:37 PM
Fram SureGrip coating
by mobilaltima
Yesterday at 08:24 PM
Manual transmissioned electric car
by mjoekingz28
Yesterday at 06:45 PM
1991 Toyota Previa New JDM engine Redline
by Kurtatron
Yesterday at 06:26 PM
8 yr old channeling John Bonham
by Toy4x4
Yesterday at 06:02 PM
Traveller nlgi 2
by Spitter
Yesterday at 05:33 PM
Upgrading the Kohler 7000 series air cleaner
by Patrick0525
Yesterday at 05:08 PM
Any nano reefers here?
by RichardS
Yesterday at 05:04 PM
ARC remanufactured Power Steering Pump
by Pajero
Yesterday at 04:58 PM
John Deere "Easy Change" System gimmick
by SnowmanCO
Yesterday at 04:55 PM
Oz Planstic Bag Bans - not so green.
by Shannow
Yesterday at 04:31 PM
help me choose...
by chaindrive
Yesterday at 04:07 PM
France F1 Grand Prix
by DeepFriar
Yesterday at 03:16 PM
Valvoline High Mileage with maxlife tech semi-syn
by bradtech
Yesterday at 03:16 PM
Best additive in oil to clean sludge?
by ffgb
Yesterday at 02:19 PM
Who is a Dirt Track regular?
by thooks
Yesterday at 01:39 PM
Newest Members
ZEK, Dudewayne, kmdz, harborbirds, frascati
65292 Registered Users
Who's Online
26 registered (dishdude, Char Baby, ctechbob, buffalobob, bmod305, 2 invisible), 465 Guests and 31 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
65292 Members
67 Forums
285749 Topics
4768890 Posts

Max Online: 3590 @ 01/24/17 08:07 PM
Donate to BITOG
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
Topic Options
#4478282 - 08/03/17 02:33 PM Baldwin Filters - FL1A & FL299 X-Refs (SAE 3/4-16)
Triton_330 Offline


Registered: 12/24/13
Posts: 780
Loc: Illinois, USA
Mostly for the sake of allowing everyone to be able to see this data all at once, I made a chart consisting of Baldwin filters that are either Motorcraft FL1A or FL299 equivalents. Knowing that the FL1A is a very popular and widely used size, the first 3 filters listed are its equivalents. For anyone who either uses an FL299 size, or if anyone wanted to upsize from an FL1A to an FL299 size, the remaining 5 filters (below the first 3) are FL299 size equivalents. All are SAE 3/4-16 threads.

All of this information was gathered from an email sent directly from Baldwin themselves.



You can open the picture in a new tab to see it larger if you need to.

Here is a link to the Word Document if you wish to download it for offline use:

http://puu.sh/x0LT2/457bf43a45.doc
_________________________
2001 Ford F-150 XLT 4x4 5.4L V8 ~132k miles
-> PPHM 5w-20 w/Fram Ultra
1989 Chevrolet Camaro RS 5.0L TBI V8 ~48k miles
-> Milesyn SB 5w-30 w/Puro Boss

Top
#4478289 - 08/03/17 02:38 PM Re: Baldwin Filters - FL1A & FL299 X-Refs (SAE 3/4-16) [Re: Triton_330]
PeterPolyol Offline


Registered: 03/06/16
Posts: 1345
Loc: toronto
Handy info, thanks for compiling!

Top
#4478339 - 08/03/17 03:53 PM Re: Baldwin Filters - FL1A & FL299 X-Refs (SAE 3/4-16) [Re: Triton_330]
Linctex Offline


Registered: 12/31/16
Posts: 6148
Loc: Waco, TX
Micron rating/efficiency is FAR FAR FAR more important than "element size"

Out of all these extremely porous filters, the Baldwin B7311-MPG is the only one that filters fine enough.
_________________________
"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."

Top
#4478388 - 08/03/17 04:53 PM Re: Baldwin Filters - FL1A & FL299 X-Refs (SAE 3/4-16) [Re: Triton_330]
E150GT Offline


Registered: 03/11/12
Posts: 1102
Loc: San Antonio, TX
I really wanted to try the B7311-MPG on my truck as I think theres enough room but Amazon was out and then I got a deal on a bunch of Bosch D3500 on clearance so it will be a while before I need another filter.
_________________________
1984 Mercedes-Benz 300SD - 100k
1995 F150 XL 4.9 reg cab 5MT - 250k 5w30
2016 Mazda6 Touring 6MT - 56k 10w30

Top
#4478458 - 08/03/17 06:45 PM Re: Baldwin Filters - FL1A & FL299 X-Refs (SAE 3/4-16) [Re: Linctex]
AirgunSavant Offline


Registered: 07/22/15
Posts: 3772
Loc: MD
Originally Posted By: Linctex
Micron rating/efficiency is FAR FAR FAR more important than "element size"

Out of all these extremely porous filters, the Baldwin B7311-MPG is the only one that filters fine enough.


I appreciate the OP's work here and thank you.
I agree with Linctex and Baldwin has some QC issues they need to address before they get me back!

Top
#4478508 - 08/03/17 07:45 PM Re: Baldwin Filters - FL1A & FL299 X-Refs (SAE 3/4-16) [Re: Linctex]
Triton_330 Offline


Registered: 12/24/13
Posts: 780
Loc: Illinois, USA
I'm pretty sure nominal means 50% and absolute means 99%+ sooo... I don't understand the complaints. Besides, Baldwin gives out more data and is friendlier than Wix. That being said, I have nothing against either of them and wouldn't hesitate to use a Baldwin or a Wix filter on any of my vehicles if the price was right.

The B2 is a cross-ref (and thus a direct competitor) to the 51515:
http://www.wixfilters.com/Lookup/PartDetails.aspx?Part=193964

The B2-HPG is a cross-ref (and thus a direct competitor) to the 57515:
http://www.wixfilters.com/Lookup/PartDetails.aspx?Part=1825888

I think a lot of people would have assumed the B2-HPG to be a competitor to the 51515XP, but the XP is touted as an extended drain filter like the Fram Ultra, Purolator Boss, Mobil 1, Royal Purple, and Amsoil filters. The Wix 51515 says "Media: Enhanced Cellulose," the Wix 57515 says "Media: Microglass," and the Wix 51515XP says "Media: Synthetic." If you want to know more details about the differences in those medias, feel free to email Wix, but there's no telling if they'll give you the kind of answer you're looking for.
_________________________
2001 Ford F-150 XLT 4x4 5.4L V8 ~132k miles
-> PPHM 5w-20 w/Fram Ultra
1989 Chevrolet Camaro RS 5.0L TBI V8 ~48k miles
-> Milesyn SB 5w-30 w/Puro Boss

Top
#4478522 - 08/03/17 07:55 PM Re: Baldwin Filters - FL1A & FL299 X-Refs (SAE 3/4-16) [Re: Triton_330]
ZeeOSix Offline


Registered: 07/22/10
Posts: 17776
Loc: PNW
Originally Posted By: Triton_330
I'm pretty sure nominal means 50% and absolute means 99%+


I doubt "absolute" means efficiency at 99%+. You should email Baldwin and find out.

Top
#4478539 - 08/03/17 08:11 PM Re: Baldwin Filters - FL1A & FL299 X-Refs (SAE 3/4-16) [Re: Triton_330]
WellOiled Offline


Registered: 10/03/15
Posts: 1358
Loc: Houston, Texas
_________________________
2004 Ford Ranger 4.0L V6
NAPA Full Synthetic 5W30 + Fram Tough Guard

Top
#4478556 - 08/03/17 08:33 PM Re: Baldwin Filters - FL1A & FL299 X-Refs (SAE 3/4-16) [Re: ZeeOSix]
Triton_330 Offline


Registered: 12/24/13
Posts: 780
Loc: Illinois, USA
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: Triton_330
I'm pretty sure nominal means 50% and absolute means 99%+


I doubt "absolute" means efficiency at 99%+. You should email Baldwin and find out.

Here's their email, if you want to ask them, go ahead: [email protected]
_________________________
2001 Ford F-150 XLT 4x4 5.4L V8 ~132k miles
-> PPHM 5w-20 w/Fram Ultra
1989 Chevrolet Camaro RS 5.0L TBI V8 ~48k miles
-> Milesyn SB 5w-30 w/Puro Boss

Top
#4478562 - 08/03/17 08:45 PM Re: Baldwin Filters - FL1A & FL299 X-Refs (SAE 3/4-16) [Re: Triton_330]
WellOiled Offline


Registered: 10/03/15
Posts: 1358
Loc: Houston, Texas
_________________________
2004 Ford Ranger 4.0L V6
NAPA Full Synthetic 5W30 + Fram Tough Guard

Top
#4478612 - 08/03/17 09:47 PM Re: Baldwin Filters - FL1A & FL299 X-Refs (SAE 3/4-16) [Re: WellOiled]
ZeeOSix Offline


Registered: 07/22/10
Posts: 17776
Loc: PNW
Originally Posted By: WellOiled


That's old, they don't even reference ISO 4548-12 which is the current industry standard for oil filter testing.

Top
#4478615 - 08/03/17 09:50 PM Re: Baldwin Filters - FL1A & FL299 X-Refs (SAE 3/4-16) [Re: Triton_330]
ZeeOSix Offline


Registered: 07/22/10
Posts: 17776
Loc: PNW
Originally Posted By: Triton_330
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: Triton_330
I'm pretty sure nominal means 50% and absolute means 99%+

I doubt "absolute" means efficiency at 99%+. You should email Baldwin and find out.

Here's their email, if you want to ask them, go ahead: [email protected]

I'll pass, it's not my research project grin , but "absolute" efficiency is not at 99+%.

Top
#4478617 - 08/03/17 09:54 PM Re: Baldwin Filters - FL1A & FL299 X-Refs (SAE 3/4-16) [Re: ZeeOSix]
WellOiled Offline


Registered: 10/03/15
Posts: 1358
Loc: Houston, Texas
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: Triton_330
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: Triton_330
I'm pretty sure nominal means 50% and absolute means 99%+

I doubt "absolute" means efficiency at 99%+. You should email Baldwin and find out.

Here's their email, if you want to ask them, go ahead: [email protected]

I'll pass, it's not my research project grin , but "absolute" efficiency is not at 99+%.

Even though the document is old, Baldwin states beta 75 is absolute. That would be 98.7%.
_________________________
2004 Ford Ranger 4.0L V6
NAPA Full Synthetic 5W30 + Fram Tough Guard

Top
#4478629 - 08/03/17 10:03 PM Re: Baldwin Filters - FL1A & FL299 X-Refs (SAE 3/4-16) [Re: WellOiled]
ZeeOSix Offline


Registered: 07/22/10
Posts: 17776
Loc: PNW
Originally Posted By: WellOiled

Even though the document is old, Baldwin states beta 75 is absolute. That would be 98.7%.


I see that, they say "beta=75 is generally considered absolute". "Generally" the key word. If that's the case then you could say it mesns "99%" if rounded up.

Top
#4478654 - 08/03/17 10:55 PM Re: Baldwin Filters - FL1A & FL299 X-Refs (SAE 3/4-16) [Re: Triton_330]
WellOiled Offline


Registered: 10/03/15
Posts: 1358
Loc: Houston, Texas
ZeeOSix - I agree with you. When you see a free standing micron rating without an efficiency associated with it, it is meaningless. Machinery Lubrication (Noria) says that in their article. The standard is ISO 4548-12 which you pointed out. The test is multi pass and measures particle counts upstream and downstream from the filter. The test is performed with a specific test dirt. So if the test dirt is 20 micron, the upstream particle count is 1000 and the downstream particle count is 30, then beta20=33.3. Efficiency is 97% @ 20 microns.

And, I did not see the word "generally". Good catch on your part.


Edited by WellOiled (08/03/17 11:04 PM)
_________________________
2004 Ford Ranger 4.0L V6
NAPA Full Synthetic 5W30 + Fram Tough Guard

Top
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >