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My New ISP -- 4G LTE AT&T #4478062
08/03/17 08:23 AM
08/03/17 08:23 AM
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WNY
redhat Offline OP
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Moving to a new apartment soon, FiOS doesn’t cover the new location. While 100/100 internet has been fun and the cost hasn’t been horrible at $45/month, a new ISP was needed. Personally, I am not too much a fan of the new Spectrum pricing. I thought the TWC service levels were decent, but those are no longer for new customers. I also have fond memories of TWC having lackluster performance when coming used in a congested area… especially an apartment complex where there are multiple tenants.

During a combination of searching the web, paying bills and checking out my AT&T plan, I came across the AT&T Home Base. It is a device made by ZTE, a Z700A that is a 4G LTE hotspot with Wi-Fi, Ethernet and two RJ-11 phone jacks. Since I have AT&T Unlimited Plus, I was able to add this device to my plan under a 2-year contact (device was no charge) for $20 per month, the same price as an additional line. It has voice service with unlimited minutes and unlimited data. Here is how the data works… many folks think it works a few different ways – this is straight from the fine print with easier jargon put in from yours truly. Mobile hotspots, the AT&T Home Base and Connected Car (OBDII powered hotspots) can be added to an AT&T Unlimited Plus plan and have truly unlimited data. Once the line with aforementioned device reaches 22GB of data used per billing cycle, the device may be de-prioritized if being used in an area when and where there is network congestion. Most folks when de-prioritized have still received 8 down and 4 up. Which IMO still isn’t bad. A lot of folks haven’t ever noticed it whether their online services are working fine or a SpeedTest still showed excellent speeds.

TL;DR – after 22GB if there’s a lot of people on the towers using data, you might be slowed down.

AT&T SmartPhones on Unlimited Plus also have the same stipulation, 22GB then de-prioritization. However, if you’re using Mobile Hotspot on an AT&T SmartPhone on Unlimited Plus, you receive 10GB of Hotspot data then are throttled to something unusable… I believe 128Kbps.

This device is working well for us! In my current apartment, where the network equipment is placed, the device is only getting 2 bars of 4G LTE service. I’ve included some SpeedTest screenshots of the 2 bar results. Speeds are good. I tried the device in a full signal area and was getting a 39ms ping response time and 28 down 22 up. Really can’t complain for $20 additional a month. My AT&T bill is about $360 a month – I’ve got myself, my GF, Mom, Dad, my two brothers, my brother’s tablet and now this Home Base. Comes out to be relatively cost effective. I take care of the bill for my parents, they’ve done a lot for me.

I then have this connected directly to my Apple AirPort through ethernet.







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Re: My New ISP -- 4G LTE AT&T [Re: redhat] #4478063
08/03/17 08:30 AM
08/03/17 08:30 AM
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NE,Ohio
Rand Offline
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holy poop, $360 a month. That's a car payment on a decent car.


2019 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk 2.0T
Re: My New ISP -- 4G LTE AT&T [Re: Rand] #4478066
08/03/17 08:36 AM
08/03/17 08:36 AM
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redhat Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: Rand
holy poop, $360 a month. That's a car payment on a decent car.


Yeah but split between the family. It’s pretty affordable per line. Not to mention there is two iPhone 7 Plus installments on the bill. Sticker shock might be big but the numbers work out.


17 Taurus Limited AWD - Dealer Fill of MCSB 5W-20 FL500S, 15k
14 Civic EX Coupe - NAPA Syn 0W-20 TG7317, 64k
09 Accord Sedan 5MT - Traveler 15W-40 XG7317, 151k
87 Regal Limited - 20W-50 VR1 WIX 51042
Re: My New ISP -- 4G LTE AT&T [Re: Rand] #4478073
08/03/17 08:50 AM
08/03/17 08:50 AM
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Honda land
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Originally Posted By: Rand
holy poop, $360 a month. That's a car payment on a decent car.


Clearly not "marketed" for you but rather for the broke millennials living in step mommy's basement.

Re: My New ISP -- 4G LTE AT&T [Re: HondaRULZ] #4478078
08/03/17 09:02 AM
08/03/17 09:02 AM
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Orlando, FL
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Originally Posted By: HondaRULZ
Originally Posted By: Rand
holy poop, $360 a month. That's a car payment on a decent car.


Clearly not "marketed" for you but rather for the broke millennials living in step mommy's basement.


Why do you keep making comments about millennials ????

It's his money to spend...

Re: My New ISP -- 4G LTE AT&T [Re: redhat] #4478090
08/03/17 09:17 AM
08/03/17 09:17 AM
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WNY
redhat Offline OP
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I'm lost... whatcha getting at? Far from broke.


17 Taurus Limited AWD - Dealer Fill of MCSB 5W-20 FL500S, 15k
14 Civic EX Coupe - NAPA Syn 0W-20 TG7317, 64k
09 Accord Sedan 5MT - Traveler 15W-40 XG7317, 151k
87 Regal Limited - 20W-50 VR1 WIX 51042
Re: My New ISP -- 4G LTE AT&T [Re: Mr Nice] #4478094
08/03/17 09:29 AM
08/03/17 09:29 AM
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Chicago,IL,USA
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Originally Posted By: Mr Nice
Originally Posted By: HondaRULZ
Originally Posted By: Rand
holy poop, $360 a month. That's a car payment on a decent car.


Clearly not "marketed" for you but rather for the broke millennials living in step mommy's basement.


Why do you keep making comments about millennials ????

It's his money to spend...

He mentioned couple of Iphones in there:
-he just changed Jobs in IT
-some companies need you to have an iphone, because of the various apps you need for your IT job (even if they don't offer you a company phone)
-some parts of the country does not offer much in ISP offers.....


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Re: My New ISP -- 4G LTE AT&T [Re: redhat] #4478101
08/03/17 09:38 AM
08/03/17 09:38 AM
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WNY
redhat Offline OP
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My cost per month is around $250. That includes our two phones, iPhone lease (one was BOGO), my parents and now the Home Internet.

I don't see that being unreasonable.


17 Taurus Limited AWD - Dealer Fill of MCSB 5W-20 FL500S, 15k
14 Civic EX Coupe - NAPA Syn 0W-20 TG7317, 64k
09 Accord Sedan 5MT - Traveler 15W-40 XG7317, 151k
87 Regal Limited - 20W-50 VR1 WIX 51042
Re: My New ISP -- 4G LTE AT&T [Re: Rand] #4478102
08/03/17 09:40 AM
08/03/17 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted By: Rand
holy poop, $360 a month. That's a car payment on a decent car.


8 things connected, I'm assuming all with unlimited service.

Re: My New ISP -- 4G LTE AT&T [Re: redhat] #4478103
08/03/17 09:40 AM
08/03/17 09:40 AM
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Where the wind comes sweepin'
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Redhat, is that ping a consistent 30-50ms or does it spike occasionally?

You may live in an area with great network infrastructure so it's cool that this is an option for you.

Re: My New ISP -- 4G LTE AT&T [Re: JHZR2] #4478105
08/03/17 09:45 AM
08/03/17 09:45 AM
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WNY
redhat Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Originally Posted By: Rand
holy poop, $360 a month. That's a car payment on a decent car.


8 things connected, I'm assuming all with unlimited service.


Yes, Unlimited Talk, Text and Data.


17 Taurus Limited AWD - Dealer Fill of MCSB 5W-20 FL500S, 15k
14 Civic EX Coupe - NAPA Syn 0W-20 TG7317, 64k
09 Accord Sedan 5MT - Traveler 15W-40 XG7317, 151k
87 Regal Limited - 20W-50 VR1 WIX 51042
Re: My New ISP -- 4G LTE AT&T [Re: Reddy45] #4478106
08/03/17 09:46 AM
08/03/17 09:46 AM
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WNY
redhat Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: Reddy45
Redhat, is that ping a consistent 30-50ms or does it spike occasionally?

You may live in an area with great network infrastructure so it's cool that this is an option for you.


Out of 100 ping replies, only two spiked to 106ms. I didn't ping in great detail in a high signal area. I attribute the couple of higher latency responses to the 2 bars of signal.


17 Taurus Limited AWD - Dealer Fill of MCSB 5W-20 FL500S, 15k
14 Civic EX Coupe - NAPA Syn 0W-20 TG7317, 64k
09 Accord Sedan 5MT - Traveler 15W-40 XG7317, 151k
87 Regal Limited - 20W-50 VR1 WIX 51042
Re: My New ISP -- 4G LTE AT&T [Re: redhat] #4478116
08/03/17 10:04 AM
08/03/17 10:04 AM
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MD
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Good on you for taking care of your parents!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: My New ISP -- 4G LTE AT&T [Re: Rand] #4478130
08/03/17 10:20 AM
08/03/17 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted By: Rand
holy poop, $360 a month. That's a car payment on a decent car.



Considering the number of devices/services he's getting, that's actually not a bad deal.


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Re: My New ISP -- 4G LTE AT&T [Re: AirgunSavant] #4478150
08/03/17 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted By: AirgunSavant
Good on you for taking care of your parents!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yeah, lots of people missed that last sentence.


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