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I sent a couple questions to Mag1ís ask the expert #4477480
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Section. I bought a 3 pack of Mag1 5 quart bottles (15 qts) for $62 on Amazon shipped free. This is what I asked.....Could you tell me the difference between full synthetic motor oil and 100% synthetic motor oil? Also, which group oil is Mag1 Full Synthetic 0W-20 FMX Dexos motor oil? Letís see what they tell me. If they tell me anything at all. I have done so much reading and canít find the difference between Full Synthetic and 100% Synthetic. My first assumption is full synthetic is Dino oil with specific additives that make it equivalent enough to synthetic base oils to call it full synthetic.

Re: I sent a couple questions to Mag1ís ask the expert [Re: Mustangmaster] #4477492
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I can hardly wait to read their response indicating that the formulation is proprietary.

Last edited by Uregina09; 08/02/17 02:21 PM.

2018 Ford F150 with 2.7 Ecoboost: Valvoline Full Synthetic 5W30 and Motorcraft FL2062
2016 Toyota RAV4: Pennzoil Platinum 0W20 and Toyota 04152-YZZA1

Re: I sent a couple questions to Mag1ís ask the expert [Re: Mustangmaster] #4477496
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you can get MOBIL1 0w20 advanced,high mileage full syn at WALMART on sale at $22.88 5 quart jugs and this https://apfco.com/secure/R8235W/ another $12 off

Re: I sent a couple questions to Mag1ís ask the expert [Re: jrvn] #4477500
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Originally Posted By: jrvn
you can get MOBIL1 0w20 advanced,high mileage full syn at WALMART on sale at $22.88 5 quart jugs and this https://apfco.com/secure/R8235W/ another $12 off


Mobil 1 made my LS460 sound like it had a CAI. I had to pullover and check the dipstick the sound was so different accelerating on the on ramp!

Re: I sent a couple questions to Mag1ís ask the expert [Re: jrvn] #4477507
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Very good deal, thanks!

Re: I sent a couple questions to Mag1ís ask the expert [Re: Mustangmaster] #4477516
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Check the UOA I posted in the gas section for a 9,018 mile run on Mag 1 0w20 in a 2016 Tacoma. Great TBN retention low wear metals. What's not to like.


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Re: I sent a couple questions to Mag1ís ask the expert [Re: Mustangmaster] #4477531
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I'm sure it's group III/hydrocracked, you're not getting Grp. IV/V for that price. Not necessarily bad, just not European style synthetic.


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Re: I sent a couple questions to Mag1ís ask the expert [Re: Mustangmaster] #4477618
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I sent in an oil sample using a 5W30 Mag1 C3 synthetic and will be posting a UOA when I get the results back.


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Re: I sent a couple questions to Mag1ís ask the expert [Re: planeman223] #4477636
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Originally Posted By: planeman223
Originally Posted By: jrvn
you can get MOBIL1 0w20 advanced,high mileage full syn at WALMART on sale at $22.88 5 quart jugs and this https://apfco.com/secure/R8235W/ another $12 off


Mobil 1 made my LS460 sound like it had a CAI. I had to pullover and check the dipstick the sound was so different accelerating on the on ramp!
UFO

Re: I sent a couple questions to Mag1ís ask the expert [Re: Mustangmaster] #4477672
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Originally Posted By: Mustangmaster
the difference between Full Synthetic and 100% Synthetic.


I think it's the same thing.

All of the base oil stock, or 100%, is synthetic (meaning Group 3 or 4 or 5 in America) and so the oil is fully synthetic.

The add pack is a separate issue. A strong add pack often has high numbers for things like zinc/Phos, TBN and SAPS (SA%) level. You can have a high (or low) SAPS oil in either Dino or synthetic.

A semi-synthetic or synblend is part Dino and part synthetic. Last time I asked Valvoline DuraBlend was 30% synthetic and 70% Dino (mineral oil, Group 1 or 2, almost always Group 2 now days).

In general a synthetic oil is better at extremes of temperature, very hot or very cold. It is also more resistant to oxidation, so it lasts longer. I may do 5K miles on a Dino but 10K miles on a synthetic, for example. Mostly it's best to just follow the owners manual.


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Re: I sent a couple questions to Mag1ís ask the expert [Re: Mustangmaster] #4477706
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It looks to me like almost all of the synthetic in the US is mostly group III. You will have synthetic oils where they have added IV and V but we aren't talking large amounts.

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Isn't Mag1 a Warren product? Probably a Supertech synthetic clone.

http://mag1.com/AboutUs.aspx



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Re: I sent a couple questions to Mag1ís ask the expert [Re: Mustangmaster] #4477748
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The wording and this video made me wonder what the difference is. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NCT24nozMYM

Re: I sent a couple questions to Mag1ís ask the expert [Re: aquariuscsm] #4477799
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Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Isn't Mag1 a Warren product? Probably a Supertech synthetic clone.

http://mag1.com/AboutUs.aspx



WPP has stated that while they make both MAG1 and Supertech Synthetic, they are two different formulations with the MAG1 being the premium product of the two.


2019 Toyota Tacoma 3.5L (MileSyn 0W-20)
2017 Jeep Renegade 2.4L (Idemitsu 0W-20)

Re: I sent a couple questions to Mag1ís ask the expert [Re: Mustangmaster] #4477814
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Letís see if this uploads from an iPad. Itís the back side label of the Mag1 0W-20 oil I bought from Amazon. It does say itís made from 100% synthetic base oils. I missed that when I first read it.


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