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#4477480 - 08/02/17 02:08 PM I sent a couple questions to Mag1ís ask the expert
Mustangmaster Offline


Registered: 08/14/08
Posts: 23
Loc: Lewisetta, Virginia
Section. I bought a 3 pack of Mag1 5 quart bottles (15 qts) for $62 on Amazon shipped free. This is what I asked.....Could you tell me the difference between full synthetic motor oil and 100% synthetic motor oil? Also, which group oil is Mag1 Full Synthetic 0W-20 FMX Dexos motor oil? Letís see what they tell me. If they tell me anything at all. I have done so much reading and canít find the difference between Full Synthetic and 100% Synthetic. My first assumption is full synthetic is Dino oil with specific additives that make it equivalent enough to synthetic base oils to call it full synthetic.

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#4477492 - 08/02/17 02:18 PM Re: I sent a couple questions to Mag1ís ask the expert [Re: Mustangmaster]
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Registered: 06/07/09
Posts: 274
Loc: Canada
I can hardly wait to read their response indicating that the formulation is proprietary.


Edited by Uregina09 (08/02/17 02:21 PM)
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#4477496 - 08/02/17 02:22 PM Re: I sent a couple questions to Mag1ís ask the expert [Re: Mustangmaster]
jrvn Offline


Registered: 08/11/16
Posts: 163
Loc: new jersey
you can get MOBIL1 0w20 advanced,high mileage full syn at WALMART on sale at $22.88 5 quart jugs and this https://apfco.com/secure/R8235W/ another $12 off

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#4477500 - 08/02/17 02:27 PM Re: I sent a couple questions to Mag1ís ask the expert [Re: jrvn]
planeman223 Offline


Registered: 07/20/17
Posts: 72
Loc: Charlotte
Originally Posted By: jrvn
you can get MOBIL1 0w20 advanced,high mileage full syn at WALMART on sale at $22.88 5 quart jugs and this https://apfco.com/secure/R8235W/ another $12 off


Mobil 1 made my LS460 sound like it had a CAI. I had to pullover and check the dipstick the sound was so different accelerating on the on ramp!

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#4477507 - 08/02/17 02:37 PM Re: I sent a couple questions to Mag1ís ask the expert [Re: jrvn]
Mustangmaster Offline


Registered: 08/14/08
Posts: 23
Loc: Lewisetta, Virginia
Very good deal, thanks!

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#4477516 - 08/02/17 02:54 PM Re: I sent a couple questions to Mag1ís ask the expert [Re: Mustangmaster]
FlyNavyP3 Offline


Registered: 07/04/16
Posts: 1424
Loc: Jacksonville, FL
Check the UOA I posted in the gas section for a 9,018 mile run on Mag 1 0w20 in a 2016 Tacoma. Great TBN retention low wear metals. What's not to like.
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#4477531 - 08/02/17 03:31 PM Re: I sent a couple questions to Mag1ís ask the expert [Re: Mustangmaster]
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I'm sure it's group III/hydrocracked, you're not getting Grp. IV/V for that price. Not necessarily bad, just not European style synthetic.
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#4477618 - 08/02/17 05:25 PM Re: I sent a couple questions to Mag1ís ask the expert [Re: Mustangmaster]
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I sent in an oil sample using a 5W30 Mag1 C3 synthetic and will be posting a UOA when I get the results back.
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#4477636 - 08/02/17 05:52 PM Re: I sent a couple questions to Mag1ís ask the expert [Re: planeman223]
jrvn Offline


Registered: 08/11/16
Posts: 163
Loc: new jersey
Originally Posted By: planeman223
Originally Posted By: jrvn
you can get MOBIL1 0w20 advanced,high mileage full syn at WALMART on sale at $22.88 5 quart jugs and this https://apfco.com/secure/R8235W/ another $12 off


Mobil 1 made my LS460 sound like it had a CAI. I had to pullover and check the dipstick the sound was so different accelerating on the on ramp!
UFO

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#4477672 - 08/02/17 06:49 PM Re: I sent a couple questions to Mag1ís ask the expert [Re: Mustangmaster]
SR5 Offline


Registered: 07/07/15
Posts: 4515
Loc: Down Under
Originally Posted By: Mustangmaster
the difference between Full Synthetic and 100% Synthetic.


I think it's the same thing.

All of the base oil stock, or 100%, is synthetic (meaning Group 3 or 4 or 5 in America) and so the oil is fully synthetic.

The add pack is a separate issue. A strong add pack often has high numbers for things like zinc/Phos, TBN and SAPS (SA%) level. You can have a high (or low) SAPS oil in either Dino or synthetic.

A semi-synthetic or synblend is part Dino and part synthetic. Last time I asked Valvoline DuraBlend was 30% synthetic and 70% Dino (mineral oil, Group 1 or 2, almost always Group 2 now days).

In general a synthetic oil is better at extremes of temperature, very hot or very cold. It is also more resistant to oxidation, so it lasts longer. I may do 5K miles on a Dino but 10K miles on a synthetic, for example. Mostly it's best to just follow the owners manual.
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#4477706 - 08/02/17 07:35 PM Re: I sent a couple questions to Mag1ís ask the expert [Re: Mustangmaster]
maintenanceMan Offline


Registered: 04/18/09
Posts: 97
Loc: Alabama
It looks to me like almost all of the synthetic in the US is mostly group III. You will have synthetic oils where they have added IV and V but we aren't talking large amounts.

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#4477732 - 08/02/17 07:55 PM Re: I sent a couple questions to Mag1ís ask the expert [Re: Mustangmaster]
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Registered: 12/30/06
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Loc: Dallas,Tx USA
Isn't Mag1 a Warren product? Probably a Supertech synthetic clone.

http://mag1.com/AboutUs.aspx

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#4477748 - 08/02/17 08:13 PM Re: I sent a couple questions to Mag1ís ask the expert [Re: Mustangmaster]
Mustangmaster Offline


Registered: 08/14/08
Posts: 23
Loc: Lewisetta, Virginia

The wording and this video made me wonder what the difference is. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NCT24nozMYM

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#4477799 - 08/02/17 09:12 PM Re: I sent a couple questions to Mag1ís ask the expert [Re: aquariuscsm]
Hootbro Offline


Registered: 08/25/03
Posts: 2414
Loc: DELAWARE
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Isn't Mag1 a Warren product? Probably a Supertech synthetic clone.

http://mag1.com/AboutUs.aspx



WPP has stated that while they make both MAG1 and Supertech Synthetic, they are two different formulations with the MAG1 being the premium product of the two.
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#4477814 - 08/02/17 09:35 PM Re: I sent a couple questions to Mag1ís ask the expert [Re: Mustangmaster]
Mustangmaster Offline


Registered: 08/14/08
Posts: 23
Loc: Lewisetta, Virginia
Letís see if this uploads from an iPad. Itís the back side label of the Mag1 0W-20 oil I bought from Amazon. It does say itís made from 100% synthetic base oils. I missed that when I first read it.



Edited by Mustangmaster (08/02/17 09:36 PM)

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