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PYB still a BITOG fave? #4475009
07/30/17 09:14 PM
07/30/17 09:14 PM
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Stelth Offline OP
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I recently picked up an old ('94) Dodge Ram 2500 4x4 with a rebuilt engine. About 30,000 miles on the engine. I changed the oil after I got it, with STP conv. 10w-40 and a Hastings filter. I'm intending to do 5,000 mile oil changes, just wondering if PYB is still held in high regard here?


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Re: PYB still a BITOG fave? [Re: Stelth] #4475019
07/30/17 09:28 PM
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Fort Worth TX
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I love pennzoil. PYB is great for 5k oci


2011 Prius 96k miles RLI 5w20
97 Toy T100 4x4: amsoil 0w20 242k Miles
04 Toy Sienna awd: Pennzoil 0w20 281k Miles
Re: PYB still a BITOG fave? [Re: Stelth] #4475020
07/30/17 09:28 PM
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Yes. The other major brands are also well regarded. If it meets API SN and is the correct viscosity use it with confidence.


2010 Ford Fusion SE 3.0L V6, 178k miles M1 HM 10w-30
Re: PYB still a BITOG fave? [Re: Stelth] #4475077
07/30/17 10:15 PM
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You know, I don't see it specifically recommended as much anymore. Same with TGMO. It seems that a lot of the recommendations just suggest to use any oil (or the cheapest) that has the API starburst of appropriate grade - which I think is a good answer. Then usually a synthetic for longer intervals or super cold climates.

Re: PYB still a BITOG fave? [Re: Stelth] #4475091
07/30/17 10:23 PM
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As of lately I don't believe there is a favorite oil here. You will see more posts on certain brands just due to market share, i.e. Mobil 1 vs Castrol. Any major brand, synthetic or conventional that meets specs is good to go.

Additionally, most conventional oils if not all are pretty much synthetic blends anymore as requirements get tougher.


2017 Mazda CX-5 Grand Touring

Valvoline Advanced Synthetic 0w20
Mobil 1 M108A EP filter

Re: PYB still a BITOG fave? [Re: Stelth] #4475100
07/30/17 10:35 PM
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PYB is still a very good cleaning conventional oil. Seems like Castrol Magnatec is the new BITOG favorite now.


2005 Subaru Impreza WRX STI || Motul X-Cess 5w40 & WIX 57712
2008 Lexus RX350 || M1 5w30 & Toyota 04152-YZZA1
Re: PYB still a BITOG fave? [Re: Stelth] #4475114
07/30/17 10:58 PM
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Only if it's back on the GTL

Re: PYB still a BITOG fave? [Re: Stelth] #4475247
07/31/17 07:03 AM
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PYB is great but if it were me I would just wait till Home Depot has Formula Shell conventional on sale and use that. Your truck will never know the difference and you will save a few $

Re: PYB still a BITOG fave? [Re: Stelth] #4475312
07/31/17 08:33 AM
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It's on the slow decline because synthetics are becoming more popular and less vehicles can use it today than 5 years ago.


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Me: 13' VW GTI 3 door 6 speed manual
Re: PYB still a BITOG fave? [Re: Stelth] #4475324
07/31/17 08:46 AM
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I didn't know a forum had a conscience or consensus.

New engine designs need premium oil.

On a Budget?: I have been liking QSUD 10w30 Synthetic or 5w20 MAGNATEC "Synthetic" The past 2 years.


2014 Nissan Rogue S CVT, OC#9 41392mi-QSUD10W30 + M110A CHAMP Filter; 2017 Subaru Crosstrek CVT OC#2 ?? mi-SOA/Idemitsu 0w20 + SOA Filter
Re: PYB still a BITOG fave? [Re: Stelth] #4475325
07/31/17 08:48 AM
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Why the 10W40 on a rebuilt engine to start with & what motor -- im assuming the 5.9L (360) or the 5.2L (318)?? Why not run 10W30 as recommended by Dodge? Not like 10W40 is gonna hurt anything in California. Long Live MOPAR!!!! wink


00 Dodge Ram 5.2L 4x4 Edge 10W30 FU (91K)
08 Acura TL Type S 3.5L PUPP 5W20 FU (101K)
17 Jetta TSI SE 1.4L Turbo - Edge 0W40 FU (Hers) (4K)
Re: PYB still a BITOG fave? [Re: thorromig] #4475353
07/31/17 09:13 AM
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Stelth Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: thorromig
Why the 10W40 on a rebuilt engine to start with & what motor -- im assuming the 5.9L (360) or the 5.2L (318)?? Why not run 10W30 as recommended by Dodge? Not like 10W40 is gonna hurt anything in California. Long Live MOPAR!!!! wink


I hope it lives long! When I first got it, oil pressure was reading a bit low, admittedly on a factory gauge of unknown accuracy. The seller had the oil changed shortly before I got it, and it could have been 5w-20 for all I know. But I like the way the oil pressure gauge reads now. Guess I should get an aftermarket gauge so I really know what's going on.


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Re: PYB still a BITOG fave? [Re: Stelth] #4475376
07/31/17 09:32 AM
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Unless they start using paraffin again I feel PYB will always be a top contender on BITOG.


2017 Chevy Traverse - 28k - Delco Dexos 1 and PF63
2014 Chevy Equinox - 22k - Delco Dexos 1 and PF457G
2015 GMC Terrain - 22k- Delco Dexos 1 and PF457G
Re: PYB still a BITOG fave? [Re: Stelth] #4475399
07/31/17 10:00 AM
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I wish this boards software was updated to run polls because you can never really get a consensus that is quantifiable around here. Just heavy opinions for or against something and most who read anything here, are filtering it through their own biases anyways.


2018 RAM 2500 Cummins 6.7L (Factory Fill 5W-40)
2017 Jeep Renegade 2.4L (Idemitsu 0W-20)

Re: PYB still a BITOG fave? [Re: ARCOgraphite] #4475888
07/31/17 07:18 PM
07/31/17 07:18 PM
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Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
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Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
I didn't know a forum had a conscience or consensus.

We have both, ARCO, and a public consciousness, too. wink


Plain, simple Garak.

2008 Infiniti G37 - Shell ROTELLA T6 Multi-Vehicle 5w-30, NAPA Gold 7356
1984 F-150 4.9L - Quaker State GB 10w-30, Wix 51515
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