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#4474889 - 07/30/17 06:32 PM Heavy duty ball mount required?
motor_oil_madman Offline


Registered: 11/29/09
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Loc: Houston, Texas
Is there a risk of a standard 600/6000 pound ball mount failing with excessive tongue weight? Say if your tongue weight was closer to 1000 pounds?
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#4474900 - 07/30/17 06:44 PM Re: Heavy duty ball mount required? [Re: motor_oil_madman]
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This sounds like a sub par set up but I can't predict exactly how it'd fail. Maybe just through poor handling.

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#4474911 - 07/30/17 06:55 PM Re: Heavy duty ball mount required? [Re: motor_oil_madman]
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You can use one of these, supports 1,000 pounds tongue weight. And adjustable to adjust for your trailer.

https://www.etrailer.com/Ball-Mounts/MaxxTow/MT70380.html
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#4474914 - 07/30/17 06:59 PM Re: Heavy duty ball mount required? [Re: motor_oil_madman]
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1000lb tongue weight on a bumper pull without weight distro? Yikes!
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#4474944 - 07/30/17 07:29 PM Re: Heavy duty ball mount required? [Re: Rand]
motor_oil_madman Offline


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Originally Posted By: Rand
1000lb tongue weight on a bumper pull without weight distro? Yikes!


Truck barely squats. It's not connected to the bumper it has a hitch.
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#4474947 - 07/30/17 07:33 PM Re: Heavy duty ball mount required? [Re: motor_oil_madman]
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The question is, what tongue weight is the hitch rated?
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#4474984 - 07/30/17 08:36 PM Re: Heavy duty ball mount required? [Re: motor_oil_madman]
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Originally Posted By: motor_oil_madman
Originally Posted By: Rand
1000lb tongue weight on a bumper pull without weight distro? Yikes!


Truck barely squats. It's not connected to the bumper it has a hitch.
Factory hitch? They must have beefed those up since they built my '06, mine's not rated that high. I think I would install a gooseneck hitch if I needed to haul 12K-although the Shelton receiver on my GMC is actually rated for that much.
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#4474985 - 07/30/17 08:36 PM Re: Heavy duty ball mount required? [Re: motor_oil_madman]
motor_oil_madman Offline


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I think it's 10,000 pounds
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#4474986 - 07/30/17 08:42 PM Re: Heavy duty ball mount required? [Re: motor_oil_madman]
motor_oil_madman Offline


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It's welded and bolted to the the frame iirc


Edited by motor_oil_madman (07/30/17 08:43 PM)
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#4474987 - 07/30/17 08:44 PM Re: Heavy duty ball mount required? [Re: motor_oil_madman]
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I'm sure I've had a 600/6,000 hitch well over 1,000 lb. tongue weight and it didn't phase it. Now that I tow by my own rules (not by dad's) I'm a little more conservative, but I don't personally worry about a 600/6,000 hitch with any load that can be reasonably hauled on a <20 ft. trailer.
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#4475001 - 07/30/17 09:03 PM Re: Heavy duty ball mount required? [Re: motor_oil_madman]
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Id look at it this way... If something has a marking of a weight rating, and you get into a collision, where an investigation is necessary, and it is found that you have insufficiently rated components, everything you do will be suspect and those elements will put you under great scrutiny.

Get the items rated properly. How much does a proper ball mount cost to acquire?

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#4475024 - 07/30/17 09:31 PM Re: Heavy duty ball mount required? [Re: Alex_V]
motor_oil_madman Offline


Registered: 11/29/09
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Loc: Houston, Texas
Originally Posted By: Alex_V
I'm sure I've had a 600/6,000 hitch well over 1,000 lb. tongue weight and it didn't phase it. Now that I tow by my own rules (not by dad's) I'm a little more conservative, but I don't personally worry about a 600/6,000 hitch with any load that can be reasonably hauled on a <20 ft. trailer.


I see guys with 3/4 ton trucks towing trailers where the shocks are almost maxed out and I highly doubt they have any special ball hitch. Now they do make heavy duty versions that are like solid steel, so I'll probably go with one of those once I figure out which one levels the trailer good enough. So i'll experiment with the 2 or 3 standard balls I have on hand and go from there I guess. I think the 2" drop ball hitch I had to begin with was probably fine. I'm finding the trailer is about an inch too low in the front and it makes the trailer ramp too steep at times on uneven ground when loading a mower.
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#4475036 - 07/30/17 09:44 PM Re: Heavy duty ball mount required? [Re: JHZR2]
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Registered: 10/21/11
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Loc: CA
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Id look at it this way... If something has a marking of a weight rating, and you get into a collision, where an investigation is necessary, and it is found that you have insufficiently rated components, everything you do will be suspect and those elements will put you under great scrutiny.

Get the items rated properly. How much does a proper ball mount cost to acquire?


+1 This

Suspect is a kind word. Claim denied is almost certain. I'll bet it's in the fine print of your policy.


Edited by user52165 (07/30/17 09:46 PM)

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#4475043 - 07/30/17 09:52 PM Re: Heavy duty ball mount required? [Re: motor_oil_madman]
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Registered: 12/18/15
Posts: 148
Loc: Texas
Just get a drop hitch and ball with a higher rating. Forget the distribution hitch, you have a big enough truck pulling it. The only fools I see with distribution hitchs are the folks pulling RV trailers with small pickups and suvs. Go to Tractor Supply, they have an excellent selection.

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#4475052 - 07/30/17 10:00 PM Re: Heavy duty ball mount required? [Re: motor_oil_madman]
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