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#4474533 - 07/30/17 10:09 AM Has Ford switched back to 5W30?
Peter_480 Offline


Registered: 07/03/17
Posts: 122
Loc: New England
My mom just bought a used '16 Fusion with the 2.0 Ecoboost and it specs 5W30. My boss has a '15 E-series cutaway with the 5.4L and it too specs 5W30.

Has Ford dropped the 5W20 spec or is it just unique to the Ecoboost and 5.4 engines?
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#4474538 - 07/30/17 10:15 AM Re: Has Ford switched back to 5W30? [Re: Peter_480]
Kuato Offline


Registered: 10/23/05
Posts: 7094
Loc: Colorado
Seems they have moved back to 5w30 for most turbo as well as HD applications....
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#4474563 - 07/30/17 10:39 AM Re: Has Ford switched back to 5W30? [Re: Peter_480]
HerrStig Offline


Registered: 08/24/11
Posts: 9560
Loc: Boston, MA
What....? A manufacturer thinks oil can be TOO thin? What will the thinsters say?

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#4474578 - 07/30/17 10:59 AM Re: Has Ford switched back to 5W30? [Re: HerrStig]
Whimsey Offline


Registered: 12/22/02
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Originally Posted By: HerrStig
What....? A manufacturer thinks oil can be TOO thin? What will the thinsters say?


Heresy! Burn them at the stake! LOL LOL LOL LOL Just kidding, I use both 20 and 30 weight oils depending upon the vehicle and operating conditions or what I FEEL like using grin.

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#4474586 - 07/30/17 11:16 AM Re: Has Ford switched back to 5W30? [Re: Peter_480]
Ram02 Offline


Registered: 05/13/17
Posts: 131
Loc: New York Queens
lol I guess Ford knows now 20wt oils can't protect like a 30wt can 😯😯😯 ooops I said it
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#4474588 - 07/30/17 11:22 AM Re: Has Ford switched back to 5W30? [Re: Peter_480]
TheOilWizard Offline


Registered: 06/02/16
Posts: 107
Loc: US
I would suspect the push to extend OCIs plays a big role in this change. 30 weight oil will take longer to shear to critical levels, thus be more capable over the long term. Ford is all about the 10k/1year OCI.


Edited by TheOilWizard (07/30/17 11:25 AM)

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#4474596 - 07/30/17 11:35 AM Re: Has Ford switched back to 5W30? [Re: Peter_480]
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Registered: 06/22/17
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#4474627 - 07/30/17 12:14 PM Re: Has Ford switched back to 5W30? [Re: Peter_480]
gfh77665 Offline


Registered: 09/01/08
Posts: 3799
Loc: Southeast Texas
Yes this was discussed a week or two ago. Ford just moved away from thin oils in some instances. Funny how no one is claiming "Ford knows best! Ford is a genius!" like many did when they moved to 5w-20 years ago. This is an admittance by Ford that a thicker oils adds protection.

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4464093/Re:_Why_did_Ford_go_from_5W20_#Post4464093

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#4474630 - 07/30/17 12:21 PM Re: Has Ford switched back to 5W30? [Re: Ammofirst]
4WD Offline


Registered: 09/21/10
Posts: 6411
Loc: Texas
The first line in Wikipedia describes Ford with decent accuracy - and should one repeat the process with a few other large multinational companies - one would see similar results ...

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#4474636 - 07/30/17 12:28 PM Re: Has Ford switched back to 5W30? [Re: Peter_480]
demarpaint Offline


Registered: 07/03/05
Posts: 29789
Loc: NY
Originally Posted By: gfh77665
Yes this was discussed a week or two ago. Ford just moved away from thin oils in some instances. Funny how no one is claiming "Ford knows best! Ford is a genius!" like many did when they moved to 5w-20 years ago. This is an admittance by Ford that a thicker oils adds protection.

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4464093/Re:_Why_did_Ford_go_from_5W20_#Post4464093


How can you possibly say that? j/k

A lot of us mere mortals made the move from a 20 grade to a 30 grade oil as well, so Ford is in good company. Sometimes you have to admit you were wrong and move on. hornets
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#4474639 - 07/30/17 12:32 PM Re: Has Ford switched back to 5W30? [Re: demarpaint]
4WD Offline


Registered: 09/21/10
Posts: 6411
Loc: Texas
Indeed - And my ecoboost is running M1 5w40 ... like many engines do in other parts of the non CAFE world...
No need to spend money on an UOA to find it might have sheared to a 30 ... that's fine if it did ...

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#4474671 - 07/30/17 01:30 PM Re: Has Ford switched back to 5W30? [Re: Peter_480]
double vanos Offline


Registered: 08/05/04
Posts: 1885
Loc: 5600 feet elevation, Arizona
4WD, I'm there with you! Been using Edge 0w40 for most of my 'Boosts life and it loves it.
I have an Ecoboost in a 2017 Expedition, so it'll be 5w30 for a while, then strait to the Edge!
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#4474709 - 07/30/17 02:28 PM Re: Has Ford switched back to 5W30? [Re: Peter_480]
NH73 Offline


Registered: 10/31/14
Posts: 699
Loc: Pa, USA
If Ford would of had some sort of standard, maybe they would of fared better. But you could put the cheapest 5w20 and it was OK. It seems other auto manufacturers just specified 0w20 to have better oil.
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#4474716 - 07/30/17 02:38 PM Re: Has Ford switched back to 5W30? [Re: Peter_480]
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Bitog > ford oil recommendations
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#4474723 - 07/30/17 02:53 PM Re: Has Ford switched back to 5W30? [Re: Peter_480]
Peter_480 Offline


Registered: 07/03/17
Posts: 122
Loc: New England
Sorry for repeating something recently discussed. I'm not here every day.

Anyway, I understand the thicker spec for turbo engines. It was the 5.4L that I found interesting after years of the 5W20 spec. A 5.4L in an E-series cutaway work truck is going to be run hard its whole life, so I can definitely see the benefit to thicker oil.
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