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Has Ford switched back to 5W30? #4474533
07/30/17 10:09 AM
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Peter_480 Offline OP
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My mom just bought a used '16 Fusion with the 2.0 Ecoboost and it specs 5W30. My boss has a '15 E-series cutaway with the 5.4L and it too specs 5W30.

Has Ford dropped the 5W20 spec or is it just unique to the Ecoboost and 5.4 engines?


'10 Ford E250 4.6L
'11 Ford Fusion 2.5L
Re: Has Ford switched back to 5W30? [Re: Peter_480] #4474538
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Seems they have moved back to 5w30 for most turbo as well as HD applications....


Thick vs Thin test: 15k / 43k miles complete
Re: Has Ford switched back to 5W30? [Re: Peter_480] #4474563
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What....? A manufacturer thinks oil can be TOO thin? What will the thinsters say?

Re: Has Ford switched back to 5W30? [Re: HerrStig] #4474578
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Originally Posted By: HerrStig
What....? A manufacturer thinks oil can be TOO thin? What will the thinsters say?


Heresy! Burn them at the stake! LOL LOL LOL LOL Just kidding, I use both 20 and 30 weight oils depending upon the vehicle and operating conditions or what I FEEL like using grin.

Whimsey

Re: Has Ford switched back to 5W30? [Re: Peter_480] #4474586
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lol I guess Ford knows now 20wt oils can't protect like a 30wt can 😯😯😯 ooops I said it


2013 Malibu 2LT M1 5w30
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Re: Has Ford switched back to 5W30? [Re: Peter_480] #4474588
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I would suspect the push to extend OCIs plays a big role in this change. 30 weight oil will take longer to shear to critical levels, thus be more capable over the long term. Ford is all about the 10k/1year OCI.

Last edited by TheOilWizard; 07/30/17 11:25 AM.
Re: Has Ford switched back to 5W30? [Re: Peter_480] #4474596
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Ford : The foreign car company :

Re: Has Ford switched back to 5W30? [Re: Peter_480] #4474627
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Yes this was discussed a week or two ago. Ford just moved away from thin oils in some instances. Funny how no one is claiming "Ford knows best! Ford is a genius!" like many did when they moved to 5w-20 years ago. This is an admittance by Ford that a thicker oils adds protection.

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4464093/Re:_Why_did_Ford_go_from_5W20_#Post4464093

Re: Has Ford switched back to 5W30? [Re: Ammofirst] #4474630
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The first line in Wikipedia describes Ford with decent accuracy - and should one repeat the process with a few other large multinational companies - one would see similar results ...

Re: Has Ford switched back to 5W30? [Re: Peter_480] #4474636
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Originally Posted By: gfh77665
Yes this was discussed a week or two ago. Ford just moved away from thin oils in some instances. Funny how no one is claiming "Ford knows best! Ford is a genius!" like many did when they moved to 5w-20 years ago. This is an admittance by Ford that a thicker oils adds protection.

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4464093/Re:_Why_did_Ford_go_from_5W20_#Post4464093


How can you possibly say that? j/k

A lot of us mere mortals made the move from a 20 grade to a 30 grade oil as well, so Ford is in good company. Sometimes you have to admit you were wrong and move on. hornets


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Re: Has Ford switched back to 5W30? [Re: demarpaint] #4474639
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Indeed - And my ecoboost is running M1 5w40 ... like many engines do in other parts of the non CAFE world...
No need to spend money on an UOA to find it might have sheared to a 30 ... that's fine if it did ...

Re: Has Ford switched back to 5W30? [Re: Peter_480] #4474671
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4WD, I'm there with you! Been using Edge 0w40 for most of my 'Boosts life and it loves it.
I have an Ecoboost in a 2017 Expedition, so it'll be 5w30 for a while, then strait to the Edge!


Sabine Schmitz is the Queen of the 'Ring; Svetlana Kapanina is the Queen of the SKIES...
Re: Has Ford switched back to 5W30? [Re: Peter_480] #4474709
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If Ford would of had some sort of standard, maybe they would of fared better. But you could put the cheapest 5w20 and it was OK. It seems other auto manufacturers just specified 0w20 to have better oil.


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2004 Ford Explorer Sport Trac
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Re: Has Ford switched back to 5W30? [Re: Peter_480] #4474716
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Bitog > ford oil recommendations


1988 Mazda RX7 na PP 10w30 Noack 4.7
1994 Chrysler Concorde 3.3
1999 Ford Expedition 4.6 QSUD 10W30 NOACK 5.0
Re: Has Ford switched back to 5W30? [Re: Peter_480] #4474723
07/30/17 02:53 PM
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Peter_480 Offline OP
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Sorry for repeating something recently discussed. I'm not here every day.

Anyway, I understand the thicker spec for turbo engines. It was the 5.4L that I found interesting after years of the 5W20 spec. A 5.4L in an E-series cutaway work truck is going to be run hard its whole life, so I can definitely see the benefit to thicker oil.


'10 Ford E250 4.6L
'11 Ford Fusion 2.5L
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