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High mileage 10w40 VS standard hdeo 15w40? #4473454
07/28/17 09:55 PM
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leroyd92 Offline OP
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Could high mileage 10w40 be used in place of hdeo 15w40?

It seems like HM oil has stuff in it like hdeo does...

I'm asking because several people have asked me this question in regards to diesel application and also heavy duty gas stuff. (Off road toys or boats )


Id like to hear what you all feel.


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Re: High mileage 10w40 VS standard hdeo 15w40? [Re: leroyd92] #4473476
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Good question!

I don't know if all the pertinent data to make an "educated guess" is available to the public.

10W-40 has had some problems in the past with shearing that 15W-40 typically doesn't suffer from.


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Re: High mileage 10w40 VS standard hdeo 15w40? [Re: leroyd92] #4473503
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The question should be 15W40 HDEO instead of 10W40 HM. Motorcycle 10w40 when on sale is a good compromise.

Last edited by userfriendly; 07/28/17 11:00 PM.
Re: High mileage 10w40 VS standard hdeo 15w40? [Re: leroyd92] #4473554
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Only when cold temp comes into play is it a question for me. Otherwise always HDEO get my vote.


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Re: High mileage 10w40 VS standard hdeo 15w40? [Re: leroyd92] #4473556
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I wouldn't think so.
HDEO 15W40 in place of 10W40, yes.

Re: High mileage 10w40 VS standard hdeo 15w40? [Re: leroyd92] #4473670
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If you are talking about a diesel application then I would think definitely not.







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Re: High mileage 10w40 VS standard hdeo 15w40? [Re: zeng] #4473673
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Originally Posted By: zeng
I wouldn't think so.
HDEO 15W40 in place of 10W40, yes.


+1

Zeng has clearly identified the distinction.


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Re: High mileage 10w40 VS standard hdeo 15w40? [Re: leroyd92] #4473724
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leroyd92 Offline OP
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I need to clarify.

People are buying HM 10w40 to use in place of 15w40.


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Re: High mileage 10w40 VS standard hdeo 15w40? [Re: leroyd92] #4473832
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HDEO has additives to keep soot in suspension and very good base stocks.

10W-40HM may have good base stocks (or a ton of VII's ... frown ) and has nothing for soot. OK in a gasser, not good in a diesel ...

Last edited by BrocLuno; 07/29/17 11:22 AM.

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Re: High mileage 10w40 VS standard hdeo 15w40? [Re: leroyd92] #4473856
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Valvoline MaxLife 15w40. Best of both worlds. HDEO&HM.


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Re: High mileage 10w40 VS standard hdeo 15w40? [Re: leroyd92] #4474075
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Re: High mileage 10w40 VS standard hdeo 15w40? [Re: leroyd92] #4474114
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Originally Posted By: leroyd92
I need to clarify.

People are buying HM 10w40 to use in place of 15w40.



In a gas engine or in a diesel?

Re: High mileage 10w40 VS standard hdeo 15w40? [Re: leroyd92] #4474340
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If it's something calling for CF or older, probably. But, I wouldn't try it with something new.


Plain, simple Garak.

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Re: High mileage 10w40 VS standard hdeo 15w40? [Re: leroyd92] #4474355
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It meets A3/B3 so it would work ok in some light diesels. For anything really requiring HDEO CG-4 to CI-4+ it would probably be OK for a short interval but why would you?

Re: High mileage 10w40 VS standard hdeo 15w40? [Re: leroyd92] #4474620
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Stick with HDEO for a diesel. Regular gassers, it would be OK.


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