Originally Posted By: Triton_330
Originally Posted By: dnewton3
CAUTION: This is a web-based rant; read at your own risk. My name is Dave and I have an opinion.
I guess I struggle to see the value in a thread like this ... What can the OP glean that is truly value-added?
Only two things can happen here:
1) your dad wins the bid. Take the Edge home and see if the bigger filter will fit. Why do you need to know PRIOR to owning it?
2) your dad loses the bid. You don't have to worry about it anyway.
- If someone chimes in a says "Yes - I've done it and it fits fine.", will that alter your actions on the day of purchase in a meaningful way? Are you planning an O/FCI right in the bank parking lot, as the ink dries on the check your dad writes, because you have a legitmate fear that the filter is two minutes away from catastrophic failure?
- If someone chimes in a says "Nope- I've tried it and it won't fit.", will that make your dad not buy the Edge?
My point is that the knowledge you seek really has ZERO value PRIOR to owning the car. Knowing or not knowing isn't going to alter the outcome of the bid.
Typical BITOG "what if ....." thread. Is there any harm in it? Nope - none whatsoever. But is there any value to it? Nope - none whatsoever.
My gosh man, there's no need to get your jimmies all rustled over a seriously nonchalant question. Did I say I was worried, or that I wanted to change the oil right away before leaving the lot? No, I didn't. Loosen up your belt and pop an aspirin. I'm worried someone in front of you at the grocery store is going to pay the teenage cashier with a 2 dollar bill, and you'll nearly have a heart attack when the kid thinks it's fake.
I never said I would gain anything from this other than being able to share a filter size between two vehicles (if we win the bid on the Edge that is - but now it seems we won't actually know until Monday because the woman at the bank in charge of it took today off).
That being said, I don't understand why you and many others throw a hissy fit when someone asks about using a larger filter that has the same threads, gasket size, and bypass psi.
There is no disadvantage in doing so if it fits, whatsoever. Of course, the only [given] advantage is a slightly larger total oil capacity, and in my case there's the additional advantage of possibly sharing an oil filter size with another vehicle we have.
So, you are
blatantly incorrect in saying there is no value in doing this.
As an idealist, pessimists tick me off to no end.
You didn't read closely enough.
I never said there was not value in the experiment. I said there is no value to this thread.
Where is the value of asking people here on BITOG if this larger filter fits the potential application?
- if it does fit, but you don't win the bid, the info is worthless to you
- if it does not fit, and don't win the bid, the info is still worthless to you
- if it does fit, and you win the bid, unless you OFCI in the lot, you don't need the info until you get home and find out yourself by trying it yourself
- if it does not fit, and you win the bid, unless you intend to OFCI in the bank lot, you don't need the info until you get home and try it yourself
Either your dad won't need the answer at all, or he can just wait until you get it home and try it yourself.
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i·de·al·ist
NOUN
a person who is guided more by ideals than by practical considerations"
The optimist will say a glass is 1/2 full.
The pessimist will say a glass is 1/2 empty.
The idealist will wish the glass had more in it.
The realist just states the tangible quantifiable facts; the 16oz glass contains 8oz of fluid.
Your ideal view has no real value in the musing of this thread. It won't result in a practical, pragmatic actionable effort. It will either result in useless info to you, or info you should be able to find out yourself.
Reminds me of folks who ask what filter their car needs, or how many quarts they should buy, or ...
Because looking at their own owner's manual is tougher than typing the inane question into the keyboard and wanting someone else to do the work for them.
I told you it was a rant ... right?
BTW - idealists tick off we realists ....