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PP or M1 #4473199 07/28/17 03:51 PM 07/28/17 03:51 PM
Joined: Mar 2015 Posts: 12,053 In the shop 53' Stude OP
53' Stude OP Joined: Mar 2015 Posts: 12,053 In the shop	I'm debating "trying" PP 0w20 but may try M1 0w20. What says the BITOG faithful. Would go 7,500 then UOA to see if 10k is doable 09' Camry LE ST 5w30 and TG 4386(filter on for second 5k run)

Re: PP or M1 [Re: 53' Stude] #4473213 07/28/17 04:10 PM 07/28/17 04:10 PM
Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 5,135 The Midwest skyactiv
skyactiv Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 5,135 The Midwest	Use Mobil1 if you enjoy high iron UOA's. Last edited by skyactiv; 07/28/17 04:11 PM. Wife: 15' Audi A4 quattro 6 speed manual Me: 13' VW GTI 3 door 6 speed manual Wanted: 2019 Ford Ranger

Re: PP or M1 [Re: 53' Stude] #4473216 07/28/17 04:14 PM 07/28/17 04:14 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 11,111 OH SatinSilver
SatinSilver Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 11,111 OH	You don't like Pennzoil because they denied your rebate submittals. So go with the other one. Plus a few weeks ago you started this thread: Originally Posted By: car51 Wondering what the BITOG faithful has to say on this matter Changing the 09' Camry's oil tomorrow. Will use oversize STP XL-3600 oil filter. Oils I have on hand are: Castrol GTX "super clean" 5w20, was $16.27-$3.00 manufacturer coupon I used today at Wal Mart Valvoline Synpower 0w20 Valvoline 5w30 Synpower Mobil 1 5w30: I gave to the brother for his Saab suv Thanks gentlemen in advance It seems like every month you ask us what we would do.

Re: PP or M1 [Re: 53' Stude] #4473217 07/28/17 04:15 PM 07/28/17 04:15 PM
Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 1,444 America's Dairyland LotI
LotI Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 1,444 America's Dairyland	M1 if you have a TGDI engine. 03 Honda Interceptor 11 Kawasaki KLR 650 12 Ford E450 17 VW GTI [IMG]http://badges.fuelly.com/images/sig-us/803455.png[/IMG]

Re: PP or M1 [Re: 53' Stude] #4473220 07/28/17 04:19 PM 07/28/17 04:19 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 19,251 Dallas,Tx USA aquariuscsm
aquariuscsm Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 19,251 Dallas,Tx USA	Pennzoil Platinum of course Or maybe give the mysterious QSUD 0W20 a go 1996 Nissan 300ZX 5-speed,Arctic Pearl(#175 of 300) Quaker State Ultimate Durability 10W30 2012 Honda Accord Coupe EX-L 2.4,auto,San Marino Red Pennzoil Platinum 5W20

Re: PP or M1 [Re: 53' Stude] #4473222 07/28/17 04:20 PM 07/28/17 04:20 PM
Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 26,367 Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada Garak
Garak Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 26,367 Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada	I'd buy based upon which jug size and price is right for you, but I think you guys get 5 quarts no matter what. Mobil makes us suffer up here with weird jug sizes, at least for my sump sizes. Plain, simple Garak. 2008 Infiniti G37 - Shell ROTELLA T6 Multi-Vehicle 5w-30, NAPA Gold 7356 1984 F-150 4.9L - Quaker State GB 10w-30, Wix 51515

Re: PP or M1 [Re: 53' Stude] #4473224 07/28/17 04:21 PM 07/28/17 04:21 PM
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 16,354 OH fdcg27
fdcg27 Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 16,354 OH	M1 AFE looks to have a better basestock blend with better cold end numbers and lower NOACK, according to the PQIA VOA numbers. The MSDS also shows significant Grp IV content. Either would be a perfectly good oil in real world use and I've used plenty of both in various grades. Wait until August and the M1 MIR should be back, making it even cheaper than PP with the current MIR. 18 Accord Hybrid FF 17 Forester 18K VME 0W-20 12 Accord LX 96K SSO 0W-20 09 Forester 95K M1HM 10W-30 01 Focus ZX3 118K PP 5W-20 96 Accord LX 104K T5 10W-30 95 318i

Re: PP or M1 [Re: 53' Stude] #4473227 07/28/17 04:24 PM 07/28/17 04:24 PM
Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 5,135 The Midwest skyactiv
skyactiv Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 5,135 The Midwest	I'd use Mobil1 if I were you. Wife: 15' Audi A4 quattro 6 speed manual Me: 13' VW GTI 3 door 6 speed manual Wanted: 2019 Ford Ranger

Re: PP or M1 [Re: 53' Stude] #4473228 07/28/17 04:24 PM 07/28/17 04:24 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 19,251 Dallas,Tx USA aquariuscsm
aquariuscsm Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 19,251 Dallas,Tx USA	I may grab a jug of QSUD 0W20 just for the halibut 1996 Nissan 300ZX 5-speed,Arctic Pearl(#175 of 300) Quaker State Ultimate Durability 10W30 2012 Honda Accord Coupe EX-L 2.4,auto,San Marino Red Pennzoil Platinum 5W20

Re: PP or M1 [Re: skyactiv] #4473229 07/28/17 04:24 PM 07/28/17 04:24 PM
Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 5,135 The Midwest skyactiv
skyactiv Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 5,135 The Midwest	Originally Posted By: skyactiv Use Mobil1 if you enjoy high iron UOA's. Word Wife: 15' Audi A4 quattro 6 speed manual Me: 13' VW GTI 3 door 6 speed manual Wanted: 2019 Ford Ranger

Re: PP or M1 [Re: 53' Stude] #4473232 07/28/17 04:27 PM 07/28/17 04:27 PM
Joined: Jun 2014 Posts: 2,842 Phoenix, Arizona - USA SirTanon
SirTanon Joined: Jun 2014 Posts: 2,842 Phoenix, Arizona - USA	If you only plan on going 7,500 miles on the oil, I'd say either of those is overkill, IMHO. 2010 Ford Fusion SE - 2.5 liter/6F35 Trans - 268,000mi 2014 Nissan Altima SL - 2.5 liter/CVT - 61,000mi

Re: PP or M1 [Re: 53' Stude] #4473241 07/28/17 04:37 PM 07/28/17 04:37 PM
Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 3,772 MD AirgunSavant
AirgunSavant Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 3,772 MD	Total Quartz 9000 Future

Re: PP or M1 [Re: SatinSilver] #4473242 07/28/17 04:38 PM 07/28/17 04:38 PM
Joined: Mar 2015 Posts: 12,053 In the shop 53' Stude OP
53' Stude OP Joined: Mar 2015 Posts: 12,053 In the shop	Originally Posted By: SatinSilver You don't like Pennzoil because they denied your rebate submittals. So go with the other one. Plus a few weeks ago you started this thread: Originally Posted By: car51 Wondering what the BITOG faithful has to say on this matter Changing the 09' Camry's oil tomorrow. Will use oversize STP XL-3600 oil filter. Oils I have on hand are: Castrol GTX "super clean" 5w20, was $16.27-$3.00 manufacturer coupon I used today at Wal Mart Valvoline Synpower 0w20 Valvoline 5w30 Synpower Mobil 1 5w30: I gave to the brother for his Saab suv Thanks gentlemen in advance It seems like every month you ask us what we would do. Easy there Matt I don't hate PP as I actually called 4 times and finally got my QSGB rebate. I did in fact nab a jug of PP 0w20 today and so far my rebate is processing. Does anyone know for a fact the PP NOACK? 09' Camry LE ST 5w30 and TG 4386(filter on for second 5k run)

Re: PP or M1 [Re: 53' Stude] #4473243 07/28/17 04:40 PM 07/28/17 04:40 PM
Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 2,198 Indiana Indydriver
Indydriver Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 2,198 Indiana	If it's a toss up, how about supporting the American company? PS: XOM honored my rebate submissions, one from WalMart and one from Costco (surprise). Last edited by Indydriver; 07/28/17 04:43 PM. 2014 Camaro 2SS/RS LS3 Vert 14,000 M1 2012 Sienna 79,000 M1 2007 Tahoe 140,000 PP

Re: PP or M1 [Re: Indydriver] #4473247 07/28/17 04:49 PM 07/28/17 04:49 PM
Joined: Mar 2015 Posts: 12,053 In the shop 53' Stude OP
53' Stude OP Joined: Mar 2015 Posts: 12,053 In the shop	Originally Posted By: SirTanon If you only plan on going 7,500 miles on the oil, I'd say either of those is overkill, IMHO. I'm thinking of doing 7,500 miles then UOA to see if I can go 10k on PP Originally Posted By: Indydriver If it's a toss up, how about supporting the American company? PS: XOM honored my rebate submissions, one from WalMart and one from Costco (surprise). I'm not totally sure I understand about the American company; Valvoline comes to mind though 09' Camry LE ST 5w30 and TG 4386(filter on for second 5k run)

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