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PP or M1
#4473199
07/28/17 04:51 PM
07/28/17 04:51 PM
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In the shop
53' Stude
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I'm debating "trying" PP 0w20 but may try M1 0w20.
What says the BITOG faithful. Would go 7,500 then UOA to see if 10k is doable
09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles
PP 5w30 and TG 4967
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Re: PP or M1
[Re: 53' Stude]
#4473213
07/28/17 05:10 PM
07/28/17 05:10 PM
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Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 4,866
The Midwest
skyactiv
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Joined: Mar 2013
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The Midwest
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Use Mobil1 if you enjoy high iron UOA's.
Last edited by skyactiv; 07/28/17 05:11 PM.
Wife: 15' Audi A4 quattro 6 speed manual
Me: 13' VW GTI 3 door 6 speed manual
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Re: PP or M1
[Re: 53' Stude]
#4473216
07/28/17 05:14 PM
07/28/17 05:14 PM
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SatinSilver
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You don't like Pennzoil because they denied your rebate submittals. So go with the other one. Plus a few weeks ago you started this thread: Wondering what the BITOG faithful has to say on this matter
Changing the 09' Camry's oil tomorrow. Will use oversize STP XL-3600 oil filter. Oils I have on hand are:
Castrol GTX "super clean" 5w20, was $16.27-$3.00 manufacturer coupon I used today at Wal Mart
Valvoline Synpower 0w20
Valvoline 5w30 Synpower
Mobil 1 5w30: I gave to the brother for his Saab suv
Thanks gentlemen in advance It seems like every month you ask us what we would do.
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Re: PP or M1
[Re: 53' Stude]
#4473220
07/28/17 05:19 PM
07/28/17 05:19 PM
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Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 18,840
Dallas,Tx USA
aquariuscsm
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Joined: Dec 2006
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Pennzoil Platinum of course  Or maybe give the mysterious QSUD 0W20 a go 
1996 Nissan 300ZX 5-speed,Arctic Pearl(#175 of 300)
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 10W30
2012 Honda Accord Coupe EX-L 2.4,auto,San Marino Red
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 5W20
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Re: PP or M1
[Re: 53' Stude]
#4473222
07/28/17 05:20 PM
07/28/17 05:20 PM
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Posts: 25,612
Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
Garak
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Posts: 25,612
Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
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I'd buy based upon which jug size and price is right for you, but I think you guys get 5 quarts no matter what. Mobil makes us suffer up here with weird jug sizes, at least for my sump sizes.
Plain, simple Garak.
2008 Infiniti G37 - Shell ROTELLA T6 Multi-Vehicle 5w-30, NAPA Gold 7356
1984 F-150 4.9L - Quaker State GB 10w-30, Wix 51515
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Re: PP or M1
[Re: 53' Stude]
#4473224
07/28/17 05:21 PM
07/28/17 05:21 PM
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fdcg27
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M1 AFE looks to have a better basestock blend with better cold end numbers and lower NOACK, according to the PQIA VOA numbers. The MSDS also shows significant Grp IV content.
Either would be a perfectly good oil in real world use and I've used plenty of both in various grades.
Wait until August and the M1 MIR should be back, making it even cheaper than PP with the current MIR.
18 Accord Hybrid FF
17 Forester 18K VME 0W-20
12 Accord LX 96K SSO 0W-20
09 Forester 95K M1HM 10W-30
01 Focus ZX3 118K PP 5W-20
96 Accord LX 104K T5 10W-30
95 318i
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Re: PP or M1
[Re: 53' Stude]
#4473227
07/28/17 05:24 PM
07/28/17 05:24 PM
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Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 4,866
The Midwest
skyactiv
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Joined: Mar 2013
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I'd use Mobil1 if I were you.
Wife: 15' Audi A4 quattro 6 speed manual
Me: 13' VW GTI 3 door 6 speed manual
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Re: PP or M1
[Re: 53' Stude]
#4473228
07/28/17 05:24 PM
07/28/17 05:24 PM
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Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 18,840
Dallas,Tx USA
aquariuscsm
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Joined: Dec 2006
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Dallas,Tx USA
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I may grab a jug of QSUD 0W20 just for the halibut
1996 Nissan 300ZX 5-speed,Arctic Pearl(#175 of 300)
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 10W30
2012 Honda Accord Coupe EX-L 2.4,auto,San Marino Red
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 5W20
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Re: PP or M1
[Re: skyactiv]
#4473229
07/28/17 05:24 PM
07/28/17 05:24 PM
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Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 4,866
The Midwest
skyactiv
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Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 4,866
The Midwest
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Use Mobil1 if you enjoy high iron UOA's. Word
Wife: 15' Audi A4 quattro 6 speed manual
Me: 13' VW GTI 3 door 6 speed manual
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Re: PP or M1
[Re: 53' Stude]
#4473232
07/28/17 05:27 PM
07/28/17 05:27 PM
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Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 2,550
Phoenix, Arizona - USA
SirTanon
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Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 2,550
Phoenix, Arizona - USA
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If you only plan on going 7,500 miles on the oil, I'd say either of those is overkill, IMHO.
2010 Ford Fusion SE - 2.5 liter/6F35 Trans - 263,000mi
2014 Nissan Altima SL - 2.5 liter/CVT - 58,000mi
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Re: PP or M1
[Re: SatinSilver]
#4473242
07/28/17 05:38 PM
07/28/17 05:38 PM
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Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 11,289
In the shop
53' Stude
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OP
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You don't like Pennzoil because they denied your rebate submittals. So go with the other one. Plus a few weeks ago you started this thread: Wondering what the BITOG faithful has to say on this matter
Changing the 09' Camry's oil tomorrow. Will use oversize STP XL-3600 oil filter. Oils I have on hand are:
Castrol GTX "super clean" 5w20, was $16.27-$3.00 manufacturer coupon I used today at Wal Mart
Valvoline Synpower 0w20
Valvoline 5w30 Synpower
Mobil 1 5w30: I gave to the brother for his Saab suv
Thanks gentlemen in advance It seems like every month you ask us what we would do. Easy there Matt I don't hate PP as I actually called 4 times and finally got my QSGB rebate. I did in fact nab a jug of PP 0w20 today and so far my rebate is processing. Does anyone know for a fact the PP NOACK?
09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles
PP 5w30 and TG 4967
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Re: PP or M1
[Re: 53' Stude]
#4473243
07/28/17 05:40 PM
07/28/17 05:40 PM
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Posts: 2,198
Indiana
Indydriver
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Joined: Mar 2011
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If it's a toss up, how about supporting the American company?
PS: XOM honored my rebate submissions, one from WalMart and one from Costco (surprise).
Last edited by Indydriver; 07/28/17 05:43 PM.
2014 Camaro 2SS/RS LS3 Vert 14,000 M1
2012 Sienna 79,000 M1
2007 Tahoe 140,000 PP
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Re: PP or M1
[Re: Indydriver]
#4473247
07/28/17 05:49 PM
07/28/17 05:49 PM
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Posts: 11,289
In the shop
53' Stude
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If you only plan on going 7,500 miles on the oil, I'd say either of those is overkill, IMHO. I'm thinking of doing 7,500 miles then UOA to see if I can go 10k on PP If it's a toss up, how about supporting the American company?
PS: XOM honored my rebate submissions, one from WalMart and one from Costco (surprise). I'm not totally sure I understand about the American company; Valvoline comes to mind though
09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles
PP 5w30 and TG 4967
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