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What makes Pennzoil Ultra 200k miles better? #4473001
07/28/17 10:59 AM
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AnarchyX Offline OP
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Just saw on their website that if you use Ultra Platinum the warranty goes up to 500k miles, and with everything else, including regular Pennzoil platinum, the warranty is for 300k miles.

200k is a big jump, so what is in the Ultra that makes it that much better?

Re: What makes Pennzoil Ultra 200k miles better? [Re: AnarchyX] #4473007
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I think I will, personally speaking, want a newer vehicle before 500K miles.


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Re: What makes Pennzoil Ultra 200k miles better? [Re: AnarchyX] #4473008
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Marketing


Without data you're just another person with an opinion. W. E. Deming

2003 Corolla 250,000 miles (RIP)
2004 Corolla 125,000 miles
2004 Rav4 370,000 miles
2015 Camry 70,000 miles
Re: What makes Pennzoil Ultra 200k miles better? [Re: Leo99] #4473025
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Originally Posted By: Leo99
Marketing
approved


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2000 Toyota Camry 2.2L 231k Valvoline 5w30 & Fram Ultra
1996 Jeep Cherokee 4.0L 147k Mobil 1 HM 10w40 & Fram Ultra
Re: What makes Pennzoil Ultra 200k miles better? [Re: AnarchyX] #4473035
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Thing is that oil related failures and even engine failure is by far a less common reason for a vehicle to be in the junkyard than a failed transmission or major accident.


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Re: What makes Pennzoil Ultra 200k miles better? [Re: Leo99] #4473039
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Originally Posted By: Leo99
Marketing


I was going to say marketing, and the fact that you are paying more money for the product, meaning they can afford the risk.


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Re: What makes Pennzoil Ultra 200k miles better? [Re: AnarchyX] #4473084
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I'll save my money and continue to use pennzoil gold and pp for now


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Re: What makes Pennzoil Ultra 200k miles better? [Re: dogememe] #4473115
07/28/17 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted By: dogememe
Thing is that oil related failures and even engine failure is by far a less common reason for a vehicle to be in the junkyard than a failed transmission or major accident.

Exactly. Oil related engine issues will not be the thing that causes retirement well before their 500K "warranty". For the extreme few that they might encounter (if they ever do) the cost will be well worth it for the marketing advantages.

Re: What makes Pennzoil Ultra 200k miles better? [Re: MotoTribologist] #4473119
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Originally Posted By: MotoTribologist
Originally Posted By: dogememe
Thing is that oil related failures and even engine failure is by far a less common reason for a vehicle to be in the junkyard than a failed transmission or major accident.

Exactly. Oil related engine issues will not be the thing that causes retirement well before their 500K "warranty". For the extreme few that they might encounter (if they ever do) the cost will be well worth it for the marketing advantages.


Not to mention the likelihood of them actually paying out in the event of an issue. Going to keep receipts for 500k miles worth of changes? Even with those I'd doubt the ability to get money.


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2017 VW GTI sport
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Re: What makes Pennzoil Ultra 200k miles better? [Re: AnarchyX] #4473148
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More escape clauses than warranty would equate to marketing. Have they ever paid out to anyone in a similar promotion in the past?? IMO, this is ad copy vetted by lawyers versus anything that would likely be considered "real world".

Re: What makes Pennzoil Ultra 200k miles better? [Re: Vuflanovsky] #4473161
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Originally Posted By: Vuflanovsky
More escape clauses than warranty would equate to marketing. Have they ever paid out to anyone in a similar promotion in the past?? IMO, this is ad copy vetted by lawyers versus anything that would likely be considered "real world".


+1. What would happen if you didn't use ultra for one or more OCI for that 500k miles? Claim denied?


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1997 Honda Civic CX 5w-30 Shell Conventional/Fram Ultra Filter
Re: What makes Pennzoil Ultra 200k miles better? [Re: MotoTribologist] #4473198
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Originally Posted By: MotoTribologist
Originally Posted By: dogememe
Thing is that oil related failures and even engine failure is by far a less common reason for a vehicle to be in the junkyard than a failed transmission or major accident.

Exactly. Oil related engine issues will not be the thing that causes retirement well before their 500K "warranty". For the extreme few that they might encounter (if they ever do) the cost will be well worth it for the marketing advantages.


Yet folks stress over sodium content or moly content as if that will make a difference in their engines lasting 500k miles or not.

In my experience, it's elastomers that harden and start to leak to have killed my past cars.


Without data you're just another person with an opinion. W. E. Deming

2003 Corolla 250,000 miles (RIP)
2004 Corolla 125,000 miles
2004 Rav4 370,000 miles
2015 Camry 70,000 miles
Re: What makes Pennzoil Ultra 200k miles better? [Re: AnarchyX] #4473221
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A few bucks a jug? wink


Plain, simple Garak.

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1984 F-150 4.9L - Quaker State GB 10w-30, Wix 51515
Re: What makes Pennzoil Ultra 200k miles better? [Re: AnarchyX] #4473271
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SOPUS is trying to boost Ultra sales not knowing that the product cannot be found anywhere to be sold in the first place.


Cannot see signatures any longer so it doesn’t matter.
Re: What makes Pennzoil Ultra 200k miles better? [Re: AnarchyX] #4473336
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The extra 200k of driving it takes just to find it LOL

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