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VIRGIN FRAM TG 3976A CUT OPEN #4472272
07/27/17 05:39 PM
07/27/17 05:39 PM
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53' Stude Offline OP
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Evening folks smile

So, over the weekend at my Wal Mart; Tough Guards are being "clearanced". This filter was $1!

Why not cut it open to show FRAM DOES use louvers and string around media wink

Enjoy the pics also












09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: VIRGIN FRAM TG 3976A CUT OPEN [Re: 53' Stude] #4472274
07/27/17 05:40 PM
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09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: VIRGIN FRAM TG 3976A CUT OPEN [Re: 53' Stude] #4472277
07/27/17 05:43 PM
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PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: VIRGIN FRAM TG 3976A CUT OPEN [Re: 53' Stude] #4472281
07/27/17 05:47 PM
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Florida
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I guess they need to add the glue and trash to jump start the filter.

Re: VIRGIN FRAM TG 3976A CUT OPEN [Re: 53' Stude] #4472286
07/27/17 05:51 PM
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Crazy looking! Did certain Frams use louvers while others had the round holes? The Frams for both my Nissan and Honda have the round holes. The Fram TG for my Honda looks really cheaply made though. I opened the box to one the other day just to see what it looked like and the ADBV looked really sloppy. It hung down really low and just looked crooked and slapped together. Next oil change I'll either use another Honda OEM or an M1-110. I also like the heavy weight of the Honda OEM and M1-110 over the Fram TG.

Curious,what's better. Louvers or round holes? Or does it even have any significance?


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Re: VIRGIN FRAM TG 3976A CUT OPEN [Re: gotnogunk] #4472288
07/27/17 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted By: gotnogunk
I guess they need to add the glue and trash to jump start the filter.


Yeah, kinda sloppy glue job


09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: VIRGIN FRAM TG 3976A CUT OPEN [Re: aquariuscsm] #4472291
07/27/17 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Crazy looking! Did certain Frams use louvers while others had the round holes? The Frams for both my Nissan and Honda have the round holes. The Fram TG for my Honda looks really cheaply made though. I opened the box to one the other day just to see what it looked like and the ADBV looked really sloppy. It hung down really low and just looked slapped together. Next oil change I'll either use another Honda OEM or an M1-110. I also like the heavy weight of the Honda OEM and M1-110 over the Fram TG.

Curious,what's better. Louvers or round holes? Or does it even have any significance?


This filter is for diesel pickups I'm guessing. No ADBV valve either.


09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: VIRGIN FRAM TG 3976A CUT OPEN [Re: 53' Stude] #4472306
07/27/17 06:15 PM
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Hmm. Louvers are nicely open, media is straight, end caps appeared to be glued to the media AND NO HOLES is the media or glue joints. Not the greatest but, a decent filter for the money IMO. Ed


CX5 Touring 2.5L :-)
Re: VIRGIN FRAM TG 3976A CUT OPEN [Re: Eddie] #4472313
07/27/17 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted By: Eddie
Hmm. Louvers are nicely open, media is straight, end caps appeared to be glued to the media AND NO HOLES is the media or glue joints. Not the greatest but, a decent filter for the money IMO. Ed


Yeah, I had not cut open a virgin filter like this so for $1 why not share my findings smile Canada USA Cheers1


09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: VIRGIN FRAM TG 3976A CUT OPEN [Re: 53' Stude] #4472328
07/27/17 06:35 PM
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Houston, Texas
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This Toughguard looks nothing like the TG2 that I used. This one reminds me of Purolator construction methods complete with wide pleat spaces. I will see if I have the last TG2 I used.

Thanks for the cut & post.


2004 Ford Ranger 4.0L V6
Valvoline Advanced Full Synthetic 5W30 + Fram Tough Guard
Re: VIRGIN FRAM TG 3976A CUT OPEN [Re: 53' Stude] #4472356
07/27/17 07:09 PM
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San Antonio, TX
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San Antonio, TX
Looks Frampion to me; louvers, button style BPV, date code placement & formatting. Built Feb. 28, 2016?


"No matter how paranoid you are you're not paranoid enough. Tell the truth. Reach as many people as you can with it. That's your weapon." - Susanne Modeski, aka "Holly" to The Lone Gunmen
Re: VIRGIN FRAM TG 3976A CUT OPEN [Re: Nyogtha] #4472376
07/27/17 07:29 PM
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Houston, Texas
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Originally Posted By: Nyogtha
Looks Frampion to me; louvers, button style BPV, date code placement & formatting. Built Feb. 28, 2016?

August 16, 2016. Julian date format.


2004 Ford Ranger 4.0L V6
Valvoline Advanced Full Synthetic 5W30 + Fram Tough Guard
Re: VIRGIN FRAM TG 3976A CUT OPEN [Re: 53' Stude] #4472384
07/27/17 07:35 PM
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San Antonio, TX
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OK


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Re: VIRGIN FRAM TG 3976A CUT OPEN [Re: 53' Stude] #4472423
07/27/17 08:14 PM
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DELAWARE
Hootbro Online content
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OK


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Re: VIRGIN FRAM TG 3976A CUT OPEN [Re: 53' Stude] #4472433
07/27/17 08:26 PM
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Toronto
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Ugly


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