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#4471342 - 07/26/17 08:01 PM Article: "Why Expensive Oil Is A Waste Of Money"
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#4471350 - 07/26/17 08:07 PM Re: Article: "Why Expensive Oil Is A Waste Of Money" [Re: wemay]
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#4471352 - 07/26/17 08:09 PM Re: Article: "Why Expensive Oil Is A Waste Of Money" [Re: wemay]
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New to me so thanks for sharing
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#4471380 - 07/26/17 09:00 PM Re: Article: "Why Expensive Oil Is A Waste Of Money" [Re: wemay]
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Yeah, but moderately expensive oil makes me feel better. And when I used to build desert bike motors, Motul 300V was one of the few that would live. $19/L - but worth it to keep the beasts together laugh
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#4471497 - 07/26/17 11:23 PM Re: Article: "Why Expensive Oil Is A Waste Of Money" [Re: wemay]
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Thank you for this! I was wondering about this very topic just the other day!
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#4471557 - 07/27/17 02:26 AM Re: Article: "Why Expensive Oil Is A Waste Of Money" [Re: wemay]
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I like the comments section. Basically, a "normal" engine running 4K OCI under "normal" conditions, the wear will so similar between SuperTech and Amsoil that the price cost isn't justified.

For most people, I think this is why an oil change is a mundane nuisance to owning a vehicle; whatever lubricant the oil change dude throws in will suffice.
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#4471559 - 07/27/17 02:48 AM Re: Article: "Why Expensive Oil Is A Waste Of Money" [Re: Dumc87]
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Originally Posted By: Dumc87
whatever lubricant the oil change dude throws in will suffice.


And to be fair, 'low quality' oil that's clean (changed regularly) will always perform better than premium oils left to rot in the sump.

We're all just way too enthusiastic here wink

And that's ok
Jordan

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#4471560 - 07/27/17 03:05 AM Re: Article: "Why Expensive Oil Is A Waste Of Money" [Re: wemay]
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Specifications are what counts the most in the end, i mean if you have say a tubocharged direct injection car it is agood idea to use a more expensive synthetic oil, or if you have an old school muscle car with a flat tappet camshaft,it's worth spending a bit of money on an oil that has the appropriate amount of zddp in it, but in the average port injection gasoline N/A engine, specs are what counts the most, not really brand.
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#4471595 - 07/27/17 06:22 AM Re: Article: "Why Expensive Oil Is A Waste Of Money" [Re: JFAllen]
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Originally Posted By: JFAllen


We're all just way too enthusiastic here wink

And that's ok
Jordan


Great take away on the subject.

Cheers
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#4471603 - 07/27/17 06:35 AM Re: Article: "Why Expensive Oil Is A Waste Of Money" [Re: JFAllen]
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Originally Posted By: JFAllen
Originally Posted By: Dumc87
whatever lubricant the oil change dude throws in will suffice.


And to be fair, 'low quality' oil that's clean (changed regularly) will always perform better than premium oils left to rot in the sump.

We're all just way too enthusiastic here wink


I'm not.

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#4471617 - 07/27/17 07:07 AM Re: Article: "Why Expensive Oil Is A Waste Of Money" [Re: Ducked]
ArcticDriver Offline


Registered: 01/27/17
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Originally Posted By: Ducked
Originally Posted By: JFAllen
Originally Posted By: Dumc87
whatever lubricant the oil change dude throws in will suffice.


And to be fair, 'low quality' oil that's clean (changed regularly) will always perform better than premium oils left to rot in the sump.

We're all just way too enthusiastic here wink


I'm not.


And thats OK...too. grin
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#4471652 - 07/27/17 07:50 AM Re: Article: "Why Expensive Oil Is A Waste Of Money" [Re: wemay]
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Article is deceptive.
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#4471673 - 07/27/17 08:07 AM Re: Article: "Why Expensive Oil Is A Waste Of Money" [Re: wemay]
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Maybe some years ago the difference between the high end boutique/expensive oils and the run of the mill oils could be quantified, but these days the gap has narrowed considerably. For a 5k OCI it makes no sense to pay for a high end oil. If your doing extended drain intervals or in a modified or racing application paying more might be in your best interest but how much more is what the end user is comfortable with paying and makes you sleep better at night.
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#4471701 - 07/27/17 08:26 AM Re: Article: "Why Expensive Oil Is A Waste Of Money" [Re: Swifty]
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Originally Posted By: Swifty
Maybe some years ago the difference between the high end boutique/expensive oils and the run of the mill oils could be quantified, but these days the gap has narrowed considerably. For a 5k OCI it makes no sense to pay for a high end oil. If your doing extended drain intervals or in a modified or racing application paying more might be in your best interest but how much more is what the end user is comfortable with paying and makes you sleep better at night.


I disagree. 10K OCIs(like I do with a quality synthetic oil) doesn't cost anymore than the 5K OCI you do. Also, the results I get are greater than yours. After 200-300K my engines will be much cleaner than yours, 1/2 of the oil changes(in 300K I will do 30-you will do 60) save resources, much better extreme cold starts, better protection in extreme heat.
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#4471735 - 07/27/17 08:52 AM Re: Article: "Why Expensive Oil Is A Waste Of Money" [Re: ArcticDriver]
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Originally Posted By: ArcticDriver
Originally Posted By: Ducked
Originally Posted By: JFAllen
Originally Posted By: Dumc87
whatever lubricant the oil change dude throws in will suffice.


And to be fair, 'low quality' oil that's clean (changed regularly) will always perform better than premium oils left to rot in the sump.

We're all just way too enthusiastic here wink


I'm not.


And thats OK...too. grin


Haha yep!
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