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Article: "Why Expensive Oil Is A Waste Of Money" #4471342
07/26/17 08:01 PM
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'18 KIA Sportage 2.4L LX AWD: GTX Magnatec 5w20
'13 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport 2.0T: EDGE 5w30
Re: Article: "Why Expensive Oil Is A Waste Of Money" [Re: wemay] #4471350
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Re: Article: "Why Expensive Oil Is A Waste Of Money" [Re: wemay] #4471352
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New to me so thanks for sharing


1988 Mazda RX7 na PP 10w30 Noack 4.7
1994 Chrysler Concorde 3.3
1999 Ford Expedition 4.6 QSUD 10W30 NOACK 5.0
Re: Article: "Why Expensive Oil Is A Waste Of Money" [Re: wemay] #4471380
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Yeah, but moderately expensive oil makes me feel better. And when I used to build desert bike motors, Motul 300V was one of the few that would live. $19/L - but worth it to keep the beasts together laugh


Formerly in marine engineering. In an earlier life I owned my own petroleum tank truck, and hauled for the majors and independent's.
Re: Article: "Why Expensive Oil Is A Waste Of Money" [Re: wemay] #4471497
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Thank you for this! I was wondering about this very topic just the other day!


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Re: Article: "Why Expensive Oil Is A Waste Of Money" [Re: wemay] #4471557
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I like the comments section. Basically, a "normal" engine running 4K OCI under "normal" conditions, the wear will so similar between SuperTech and Amsoil that the price cost isn't justified.

For most people, I think this is why an oil change is a mundane nuisance to owning a vehicle; whatever lubricant the oil change dude throws in will suffice.


'90 Z32 - PP HM 10w30
'98 ZJ - PYB HM 10w40
'02 G20 - QS UD 5w30
'09 Matrix - QS UD 0w20
Re: Article: "Why Expensive Oil Is A Waste Of Money" [Re: Dumc87] #4471559
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Originally Posted By: Dumc87
whatever lubricant the oil change dude throws in will suffice.


And to be fair, 'low quality' oil that's clean (changed regularly) will always perform better than premium oils left to rot in the sump.

We're all just way too enthusiastic here wink

And that's ok
Jordan

Re: Article: "Why Expensive Oil Is A Waste Of Money" [Re: wemay] #4471560
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Specifications are what counts the most in the end, i mean if you have say a tubocharged direct injection car it is agood idea to use a more expensive synthetic oil, or if you have an old school muscle car with a flat tappet camshaft,it's worth spending a bit of money on an oil that has the appropriate amount of zddp in it, but in the average port injection gasoline N/A engine, specs are what counts the most, not really brand.


1975 Ford Capri II Ghia 3000 V6, - Shell Helix HX3 20W-50 w/ 20% Rimula R4X 15W-40 HDEO.

1988 Ford Escort Mk4 Xr3i Cabrio, - Shell Rimula R4X 15W-40, w/ 30% Helix 3 20W-50.
Re: Article: "Why Expensive Oil Is A Waste Of Money" [Re: JFAllen] #4471595
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Originally Posted By: JFAllen


We're all just way too enthusiastic here wink

And that's ok
Jordan


Great take away on the subject.

Cheers


Multiple Diesel and Gasoline vehicles
Re: Article: "Why Expensive Oil Is A Waste Of Money" [Re: JFAllen] #4471603
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Originally Posted By: JFAllen
Originally Posted By: Dumc87
whatever lubricant the oil change dude throws in will suffice.


And to be fair, 'low quality' oil that's clean (changed regularly) will always perform better than premium oils left to rot in the sump.

We're all just way too enthusiastic here wink


I'm not.

Re: Article: "Why Expensive Oil Is A Waste Of Money" [Re: Ducked] #4471617
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Originally Posted By: Ducked
Originally Posted By: JFAllen
Originally Posted By: Dumc87
whatever lubricant the oil change dude throws in will suffice.


And to be fair, 'low quality' oil that's clean (changed regularly) will always perform better than premium oils left to rot in the sump.

We're all just way too enthusiastic here wink


I'm not.


And thats OK...too. grin


Multiple Diesel and Gasoline vehicles
Re: Article: "Why Expensive Oil Is A Waste Of Money" [Re: wemay] #4471652
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Article is deceptive.


2007 Ford Fusion 232,000 miles
M1 0-20 EP
2017 Ford Fusion 55K
M1 0-20 EP
10,000 mile OCIs on both engines
M1 ATF and MC LV
M1 10-30 in all OPE
MC filters

Re: Article: "Why Expensive Oil Is A Waste Of Money" [Re: wemay] #4471673
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Maybe some years ago the difference between the high end boutique/expensive oils and the run of the mill oils could be quantified, but these days the gap has narrowed considerably. For a 5k OCI it makes no sense to pay for a high end oil. If your doing extended drain intervals or in a modified or racing application paying more might be in your best interest but how much more is what the end user is comfortable with paying and makes you sleep better at night.


2013 Civic SI Sedan Amsoil 5/30 ASL Fram Ultra 83k miles

2018 Acura RDX Tech, VCM disabled, oil TBD...

2003 Toyota Highlander M1 10/30HM Fram Ultra Filter (wife's) 167k miles...retired
Re: Article: "Why Expensive Oil Is A Waste Of Money" [Re: Swifty] #4471701
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Originally Posted By: Swifty
Maybe some years ago the difference between the high end boutique/expensive oils and the run of the mill oils could be quantified, but these days the gap has narrowed considerably. For a 5k OCI it makes no sense to pay for a high end oil. If your doing extended drain intervals or in a modified or racing application paying more might be in your best interest but how much more is what the end user is comfortable with paying and makes you sleep better at night.


I disagree. 10K OCIs(like I do with a quality synthetic oil) doesn't cost anymore than the 5K OCI you do. Also, the results I get are greater than yours. After 200-300K my engines will be much cleaner than yours, 1/2 of the oil changes(in 300K I will do 30-you will do 60) save resources, much better extreme cold starts, better protection in extreme heat.


2007 Ford Fusion 232,000 miles
M1 0-20 EP
2017 Ford Fusion 55K
M1 0-20 EP
10,000 mile OCIs on both engines
M1 ATF and MC LV
M1 10-30 in all OPE
MC filters

Re: Article: "Why Expensive Oil Is A Waste Of Money" [Re: ArcticDriver] #4471735
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Originally Posted By: ArcticDriver
Originally Posted By: Ducked
Originally Posted By: JFAllen
Originally Posted By: Dumc87
whatever lubricant the oil change dude throws in will suffice.


And to be fair, 'low quality' oil that's clean (changed regularly) will always perform better than premium oils left to rot in the sump.

We're all just way too enthusiastic here wink


I'm not.


And thats OK...too. grin


Haha yep!


'90 Z32 - PP HM 10w30
'98 ZJ - PYB HM 10w40
'02 G20 - QS UD 5w30
'09 Matrix - QS UD 0w20
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