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P2V Neptune Firefighting fly along #4469485
07/24/17 09:43 PM
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Drew99GT Offline OP
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These old birds have a few years left until the modern jet air tankers get all the Forest Service contracts.


Re: P2V Neptune Firefighting fly along [Re: Drew99GT] #4469490
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Thank you for posting this. The Navy flew these to do the job I do well before my time. I'd love to go fly in one. Lockheed built and continues to build fantastic aircraft.


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Re: P2V Neptune Firefighting fly along [Re: Drew99GT] #4469491
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Wright Cyclone radials all the way!


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Re: P2V Neptune Firefighting fly along [Re: FlyNavyP3] #4469519
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Originally Posted By: FlyNavyP3
Thank you for posting this. The Navy flew these to do the job I do well before my time. I'd love to go fly in one. Lockheed built and continues to build fantastic aircraft.


You're welcome! The P3s were/are fantastic firefighting planes as well; maybe the best at what they did. I enjoy them all. It's cool to see planes built for one specific purpose transformed into an entirely different purpose, and excel at the latter.

Re: P2V Neptune Firefighting fly along [Re: Drew99GT] #4469560
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Re: P2V Neptune Firefighting fly along [Re: Drew99GT] #4469684
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Nice! Thanks for posting.

Re: P2V Neptune Firefighting fly along [Re: Drew99GT] #4469759
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I served in VP-11 from 3-64 to 6-67 and we flew the P2V Neptune. I was a a jet mech but spent many hours wrenching on the R-3350 radials. The jets were the J-34. I did fly on CAC 11 for nearly 2 years as 2nd mech and spent many hours in the jump seat between and aft of the pilots. My job was to watch the fuel load and transfer fuel from tank to tank when needed. Also monitor the engines and fire up the jets when the pilot wanted them. We spent many hours flying out of Brunswick, Me. over the north Atlantic, Caribbean, and the Med while on deployment. Great adventure for a 21 year old kid. This is a pic of us on patrol in the Med in 1966. Tail number 147962.
https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/63/P2V-7_VP-7_1954.jpg/300px-P2V-7_VP-7_1954.jpg&imgrefurl=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_P-2_Neptune&h=172&w=300&tbnid=Ushqw_M-PT73CM:&tbnh=114&tbnw=200&usg=__fqO9FTJGs4ZBxmpc9n4_e6N0m5A=&vet=10ahUKEwjhscKayKTVAhWFMSYKHfu8DjkQ_B0IlAEwCg..i&docid=IDTCKgoL9CodPM&itg=1&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=0ahUKEwjhscKayKTVAhWFMSYKHfu8DjkQ_B0IlAEwCg&ei=8Up3WaH1MoXjmAH7-brIAw#h=172&imgdii=OHM9Ehz5C78TJM:&tbnh=114&tbnw=200&vet=10ahUKEwjhscKayKTVAhWFMSYKHfu8DjkQ_B0IlAEwCg..i&w=300&spf=1500990271617

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Re: P2V Neptune Firefighting fly along [Re: Drew99GT] #4469828
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Stupid question, but wouldn't a prop plane have a better ability to do those "tight and slow" maneuvers than a jet aircraft?

Or is the increased capacity and flaps pretty much negating the whole situation?


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Re: P2V Neptune Firefighting fly along [Re: Drew99GT] #4469906
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I like seeing the shadow of the aircraft as the fire retardant is being dropped.


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Re: P2V Neptune Firefighting fly along [Re: DoubleWasp] #4469944
07/25/17 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted By: DoubleWasp
Stupid question, but wouldn't a prop plane have a better ability to do those "tight and slow" maneuvers than a jet aircraft?

Or is the increased capacity and flaps pretty much negating the whole situation?


The jets they use now like the BAE146 that are replacing the P2Vs are very maneuverable in full flap drop configuration. I think they can actually fly slower and they have more power and climb out. Heck, the DC10 tankers are quite maneuverable!

https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b37_1410712807

Re: P2V Neptune Firefighting fly along [Re: Drew99GT] #4470319
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I had P2Vs circling my work a couple weeks ago. I work near a tanker base.

The USFS has surprisingly few aircraft.


You get what you pay for...
So keep in mind how much you paid for this advice.
Re: P2V Neptune Firefighting fly along [Re: Drew99GT] #4473082
07/28/17 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
These old birds have a few years left until the modern jet air tankers get all the Forest Service contracts.


This is the final Chapter for the Mighty Neptune.
https://www.facebook.com/events/1872236543102757/

Re: P2V Neptune Firefighting fly along [Re: Drew99GT] #4473090
07/28/17 01:10 PM
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Cool, thanks for that! Glad to see Neptune is leading the way with the converted light jet tankers. They have 9 BAE146s.

https://neptuneaviation.com/operations-2/


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