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#4469350 - 07/24/17 08:36 PM 2014 Audi SQ5 air filter
shokhead Offline


Registered: 02/23/06
Posts: 156
Loc: SoCal
Will be needing to replace an OEM air filter and was wondering if there was better to chose from. Mann? Wix?
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#4469374 - 07/24/17 08:50 PM Re: 2014 Audi SQ5 air filter [Re: shokhead]
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Registered: 12/24/11
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Mann, Mahle, Hengst.

Or straight from the dealer.
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#4469469 - 07/24/17 10:25 PM Re: 2014 Audi SQ5 air filter [Re: shokhead]
Olas Offline


Registered: 12/11/13
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The dealer will sell you the same OE filter as the aftermarket will sell you, it will be from Mann, Mahle or Hengst.
The only difference between vendors is their price.
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#4469558 - 07/25/17 03:08 AM Re: 2014 Audi SQ5 air filter [Re: shokhead]
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Agree
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#4469781 - 07/25/17 08:53 AM Re: 2014 Audi SQ5 air filter [Re: shokhead]
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So there isn't a better choice then Mann, Mahle or Hengst which I don't have a problem with any and was maybe just going to go with a wix gold filter.
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#4469897 - 07/25/17 10:25 AM Re: 2014 Audi SQ5 air filter [Re: shokhead]
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I should add that I'm only asking because I've never had a car with a supercharger{if it matters}, a cone filter and such a big [censored] filter.
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#4474331 - 07/30/17 03:53 AM Re: 2014 Audi SQ5 air filter [Re: shokhead]
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Air filtration is equally important in normally aspirated engines as it is in forced induction engines.

You can use a wix/fram/napa if you want to, but if they were able to protect your engine the manufacturer would have used them.

Audi use Mann/mahle/hengst in the new cars they sell with a warranty - tells you something about the standard and quality of the parts they use.
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#4475270 - 07/31/17 07:44 AM Re: 2014 Audi SQ5 air filter [Re: Olas]
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Registered: 05/27/08
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Loc: NJ
Originally Posted By: Olas
Air filtration is equally important in normally aspirated engines as it is in forced induction engines.

You can use a wix/fram/napa if you want to, but if they were able to protect your engine the manufacturer would have used them.

Audi use Mann/mahle/hengst in the new cars they sell with a warranty - tells you something about the standard and quality of the parts they use.


Why do you redline fluids then? If they were able to protect your engine, the manufacturer would have used them.

Audi uses Castrol in the new cars they well with a warranty - tells you something about the standard and quality of the parts they use.
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#4475352 - 07/31/17 09:11 AM Re: 2014 Audi SQ5 air filter [Re: UG_Passat]
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Registered: 12/24/11
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Loc: North Carolina
Originally Posted By: UG_Passat
Originally Posted By: Olas
Air filtration is equally important in normally aspirated engines as it is in forced induction engines.

You can use a wix/fram/napa if you want to, but if they were able to protect your engine the manufacturer would have used them.

Audi use Mann/mahle/hengst in the new cars they sell with a warranty - tells you something about the standard and quality of the parts they use.

Why do you redline fluids then? If they were able to protect your engine, the manufacturer would have used them.

Audi uses Castrol in the new cars they well with a warranty - tells you something about the standard and quality of the parts they use.

He uses Redline fluids in his ancient Sirocco... They more than meet his vehicle's specifications.

Im not sure I follow your Castrol statement. Are you implying that Castrol makes anything but excellent oils?

There's no denying that Fram cartridges for German cars are usually made in China junk. There are numerous examples of failed Fram cartridges, even on this site. WIX is usually fine but again, if Mann/Mahle/Hengst are so inexpensive and readily available, why bother with anything else?
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#4475374 - 07/31/17 09:30 AM Re: 2014 Audi SQ5 air filter [Re: shokhead]
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Loc: NJ
Define inexpensive? About $30 for the air filter is inexpensive (including shipping costs)? Sounds expensive to me.
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#4475572 - 07/31/17 01:01 PM Re: 2014 Audi SQ5 air filter [Re: shokhead]
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Registered: 05/27/08
Posts: 1970
Loc: NJ
Wix was bought by Mann-Hummel in May 2016.

$20.13 with Prime Shipping isn't that bad.
https://www.amazon.com/WIX-Filters-49143-Filter-Pack/dp/B002PMOMHS

or $16 and change from RockAuto
http://www.rockauto.com/en/parts/wix,49143,air+filter,6192


Edited by UG_Passat (07/31/17 01:03 PM)
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#4477135 - 08/02/17 07:04 AM Re: 2014 Audi SQ5 air filter [Re: UG_Passat]
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Registered: 12/11/13
Posts: 3933
Loc: Manchester, England
Originally Posted By: UG_Passat
Originally Posted By: Olas
Air filtration is equally important in normally aspirated engines as it is in forced induction engines.

You can use a wix/fram/napa if you want to, but if they were able to protect your engine the manufacturer would have used them.

Audi use Mann/mahle/hengst in the new cars they sell with a warranty - tells you something about the standard and quality of the parts they use.


Why do you redline fluids then? If they were able to protect your engine, the manufacturer would have used them.

Audi uses Castrol in the new cars they well with a warranty - tells you something about the standard and quality of the parts they use.


Redline oils didn't exist when the car was made. I could use a period correct group1&2 15w40 or I could use something that meets the necessary 502 while having huge doses of FM and EP and AW adds, all of which are crucially important.

Audi use Castrol the same as any other company subcontracts work - whoever can fulfil the contract at the lowest price gets the business. If it meets 504/507 it's acceptable.
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#4477137 - 08/02/17 07:06 AM Re: 2014 Audi SQ5 air filter [Re: rooflessVW]
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Loc: Manchester, England


There's no denying that Fram cartridges for German cars are usually made in China junk. There are numerous examples of failed Fram cartridges, even on this site. [/quote]

This, x10.
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#4477177 - 08/02/17 08:02 AM Re: 2014 Audi SQ5 air filter [Re: Olas]
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Registered: 05/27/08
Posts: 1970
Loc: NJ
Originally Posted By: Olas
Originally Posted By: UG_Passat
Originally Posted By: Olas
Air filtration is equally important in normally aspirated engines as it is in forced induction engines.

You can use a wix/fram/napa if you want to, but if they were able to protect your engine the manufacturer would have used them.

Audi use Mann/mahle/hengst in the new cars they sell with a warranty - tells you something about the standard and quality of the parts they use.


Why do you redline fluids then? If they were able to protect your engine, the manufacturer would have used them.

Audi uses Castrol in the new cars they well with a warranty - tells you something about the standard and quality of the parts they use.


Redline oils didn't exist when the car was made. I could use a period correct group1&2 15w40 or I could use something that meets the necessary 502 while having huge doses of FM and EP and AW adds, all of which are crucially important.

Audi use Castrol the same as any other company subcontracts work - whoever can fulfil the contract at the lowest price gets the business. If it meets 504/507 it's acceptable.


Which is the same thing as which filters VAG stocks at the parts counter and assembly plant. The choice between Mann, Mahle, Hengst, Purflux, Denso,... it's who can meet their specs and best pricepoint for them at the time they award the contract.

In the US, we also have the magnuson-moss act, which protects consumers from the auto manufacturers voiding warranties because consumers did not use the manufacturer's branded parts, they have to prove that aftermarket part caused the failure.

Yes, FRAM cartridge filters used to be great, their CH9911 was a German made filter that undercut the price of a Mann filter. Then they switched to a Chinese made filter (which Mann does have plants in china), which its construction mimicked a Hengst filter, which I didn't like the crushed look of the filter when I removed it from the car, which was why I went back to ordering Mann.

my current car, I'd get a Fram Ultra spin-on, but for 2x the cost (around $30 at Walmart) of a Mann (off of Amazon)? No thanks.
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#4477526 - 08/02/17 03:26 PM Re: 2014 Audi SQ5 air filter [Re: rooflessVW]
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Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
... There's no denying that Fram cartridges for German cars are usually made in China junk. ...
What about made-in-China Fram cartridges for Japanese cars? I have one I haven't installed yet, a TG10358. It looks OK, but very different from the endcapless OE Denso type.
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