Recent Topics
Mobil Delvac 1 ESP 5w40 $23.65 at Walmart
by 71Chevyguy
06/23/18 04:36 PM
diesel oil in older engines- RE: cats etc
by 928
06/23/18 04:35 PM
2011 F-150 Ecoboost timing chain replacement
by 14Accent
06/23/18 04:31 PM
My stash of Kendall GT1 almost gone..
by Vern_in_IL
06/23/18 04:30 PM
mobil 1 rebate check
by Fitter30
06/23/18 03:52 PM
Cab mount failure
by ram_man
06/23/18 03:31 PM
02 Saab aero oil?
by Newuser
06/23/18 03:00 PM
Extend wifi range
by clarkflower
06/23/18 02:05 PM
Under valve cover pics 207,000 miles
by WobblyElvis
06/23/18 01:57 PM
Lease Buyout by Dealer
by Throt
06/23/18 01:52 PM
13 Ford Escape
by RedOak
06/23/18 01:10 PM
New washer pump leaking fluid
by llmercll
06/23/18 12:17 PM
Fuel dilution and CCS/MRV viscosity
by doyall
06/23/18 12:10 PM
Door Hinges
by Scrum67
06/23/18 11:59 AM
PBS, TV channels in different countries
by onetwoothreee
06/23/18 11:29 AM
Break in filter cut open/ Filtermag
by UncleDave
06/23/18 10:36 AM
Changed coil pack, now throwing cat code
by llmercll
06/23/18 10:36 AM
07 V6 Mustang oil leak.
by aquariuscsm
06/23/18 10:33 AM
Windows 10 Update, version 1803
by Sayjac
06/23/18 09:55 AM
Super Tech Euro Spec Synthetic
by Snagglefoot
06/23/18 09:48 AM
Newest Members
bwechols, bowupid, pod423, lemaitrix, azzid0906
65303 Registered Users
Who's Online
88 registered (2015_PSD, 928, 71Chevyguy, 1JZ_E46, 14Accent, 9 invisible), 1538 Guests and 45 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
65303 Members
67 Forums
285863 Topics
4770530 Posts

Max Online: 3590 @ 01/24/17 08:07 PM
Donate to BITOG
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
Topic Options
#4468884 - 07/24/17 12:08 PM Ford Police Responder
supton Offline


Registered: 11/09/08
Posts: 11976
Loc: NH
I don't think I've seen this posted here, but Ford is releasing a pursuit rated pickup: Ward's



Quote:
The F-150 Police Responder is capable of speeds up to 100 mph. It features a powerful 3.5L EcoBoost V-6 mated to a Ford SelectShift 10-speed automatic transmission, with an all-wheel drive for all-terrain performance.
_________________________
2011 Toyota Camry, base, 2.5L/6MT, 162k, hers
2010 Toyota Tundra DC, 4.6L/6AT, 143k, ours
1999 Toyota Camry LE, 2.2L/4AT, 183k, his

Top
#4468894 - 07/24/17 12:17 PM Re: Ford Police Responder [Re: supton]
TheKracken Offline


Registered: 04/18/17
Posts: 515
Loc: Fort Worth TX
I will be looking for that come time when they start retiring them.
_________________________
2011 Prius 96k miles RLI 5w20
97 Toy T100 4x4: amsoil 0w20 242k Miles
04 Toy Sienna awd: Pennzoil 0w20 281k Miles

Top
#4468901 - 07/24/17 12:31 PM Re: Ford Police Responder [Re: supton]
supton Offline


Registered: 11/09/08
Posts: 11976
Loc: NH
I wonder what how the transfer case will hold up. AWD so I'm guessing it can move torque around, as needed. I know it's a crew cab, but still: heavy up front. So I'm thinking it may wind up moving torque around--a lot--under police usage. Meaning, I wonder how long the TC will hold up.

Might just be FUD on my part though, I'll admit that.
_________________________
2011 Toyota Camry, base, 2.5L/6MT, 162k, hers
2010 Toyota Tundra DC, 4.6L/6AT, 143k, ours
1999 Toyota Camry LE, 2.2L/4AT, 183k, his

Top
#4468927 - 07/24/17 01:06 PM Re: Ford Police Responder [Re: supton]
demarpaint Offline


Registered: 07/03/05
Posts: 29789
Loc: NY
I like the looks of it. I also wonder how it will hold up.
_________________________
God Bless Our Troops


Top
#4468972 - 07/24/17 01:57 PM Re: Ford Police Responder [Re: supton]
CKN Offline


Registered: 10/14/14
Posts: 3700
Loc: Utah
It's not a Crown Vic......

Top
#4468973 - 07/24/17 01:58 PM Re: Ford Police Responder [Re: supton]
FutureDoc Offline


Registered: 10/30/13
Posts: 1704
Loc: North Carolina
LEA have been using F150s for years, just not for pursuit. Not sure how the F150 will be for pursuit-ing purposes and will likely replace the SSV for more agencies. Agencies like mine (non-pursuit oriented) will order them but HWP and other will keep to the PI or CP models. Also, don't expect a lot of agencies to spring for them as I don't see cages bring very practical in the rear and I can see the rifle boxes being a bit of a pain with that truckbed. I see Sheriff Dep. who are "insecure" about driving a Taurus SSV to clamor for these vehicles. Then again, I can see my department ordering two because it can double as our Emergency Management, traffic cone distribution vehicle.

Likely the "upgrade" is tires (V+ rated) and brake related, maybe a suspension tweak. I guess this is how they are fixing the Ford Explorer exhaust issues.


Edited by FutureDoc (07/24/17 01:58 PM)
_________________________
'15 Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 - Havoline 5w-30 & OEM
'14 Subaru Outback 2.5 - NAPA 0w-20 & Wix
'01 Toyota MR2 Spyder - Havoline 5w-30 & Wix
'82 Chevy C10

Top
#4468974 - 07/24/17 01:58 PM Re: Ford Police Responder [Re: demarpaint]
turtlevette Offline


Registered: 12/24/13
Posts: 3569
Loc: Massachusetts
What does pursuit rated mean? A pickup is not the best for this because it's so light in back.


Edited by turtlevette (07/24/17 01:59 PM)
_________________________
USA-1

Top
#4468977 - 07/24/17 02:03 PM Re: Ford Police Responder [Re: supton]
CT8 Offline


Registered: 10/09/14
Posts: 11008
Loc: Idaho
Seems like a great vehicle for rural types of departments.
_________________________
"Don't let your preconceived notions get in the way of facts."
Geoff Metcalf

Top
#4468990 - 07/24/17 02:16 PM Re: Ford Police Responder [Re: turtlevette]
CKN Offline


Registered: 10/14/14
Posts: 3700
Loc: Utah
Originally Posted By: turtlevette
What does pursuit rated mean? A pickup is not the best for this because it's so light in back.


I heard on the news it was "pursuit rated" to 100mph. I agree-I wouldn't want to drive my Silverado at that speed for too terribly long.

Top
#4468995 - 07/24/17 02:22 PM Re: Ford Police Responder [Re: turtlevette]
FutureDoc Offline


Registered: 10/30/13
Posts: 1704
Loc: North Carolina
Originally Posted By: turtlevette
What does pursuit rated mean? A pickup is not the best for this because it's so light in back.


It is normally a sustained speed/handling specification. Often, you get larger and vented discs on the rear, a tweaked suspension (mostly a bigger or added roll bar), a tweaked transmission tune and throttle response, maybe a tranny cooler depending on the model, and specific V+ rated summer tires like the Goodyear Eagles UHP summer tires we have on contract. For ford products, it means you get the AWD over FWD but Chevy used to have FWD "pursuit" vehicles too. Go figure.

For example, the Charger Pursuit and the Charger R/T are extremely similar and the differences are normally a "creature comfort" delete and upgraded alternators ect.

Now, for non-pursuit vehicles like our Ford SSV (Special Service Vehicle), we still get some of those goodies but it is paired with the 3.7 or the 2.3T engine and then with standard all-weather tires. I still got the bigger brakes I think. It depends on how it was packaged. LE do still use these vehicles in "pursuit" at times.
_________________________
'15 Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 - Havoline 5w-30 & OEM
'14 Subaru Outback 2.5 - NAPA 0w-20 & Wix
'01 Toyota MR2 Spyder - Havoline 5w-30 & Wix
'82 Chevy C10

Top
#4468998 - 07/24/17 02:24 PM Re: Ford Police Responder [Re: supton]
itguy08 Offline


Registered: 09/15/11
Posts: 3227
Loc: Somewhere
Originally Posted By: supton
I wonder what how the transfer case will hold up. AWD so I'm guessing it can move torque around, as needed. I know it's a crew cab, but still: heavy up front. So I'm thinking it may wind up moving torque around--a lot--under police usage. Meaning, I wonder how long the TC will hold up.

Might just be FUD on my part though, I'll admit that.


Ford (and GM) does sell pickups with auto 4wd (AKA AWD) for years now and you don't hear of many transfer case failures.

As others have said I don't know I'd want to drive > 80 in a pickup for a long period of time. But it could be helpful for rural departments, the park service, conservation officers, border control, animal control, etc.


Edited by itguy08 (07/24/17 02:26 PM)

Top
#4469002 - 07/24/17 02:35 PM Re: Ford Police Responder [Re: supton]
DoubleWasp Offline


Registered: 05/21/12
Posts: 5236
Loc: Fort Lauderdale, FL
Border Patrol will take million please.
_________________________
07 Lincoln Navigator M1 0w-40/FU
68 Charger R/T / Supercharged 440 VR1/DBL7349
07 Ram 3500 4x4 / Cummins 6.7 /DBL7349
17 Maserati GranTurismo Cabrio

Top
#4469006 - 07/24/17 02:39 PM Re: Ford Police Responder [Re: itguy08]
FutureDoc Offline


Registered: 10/30/13
Posts: 1704
Loc: North Carolina
Originally Posted By: itguy08
As others have said I don't know I'd want to drive > 80 in a pickup for a long period of time. But it could be helpful for rural departments, the park service, conservation officers, border control, animal control, etc.


I can see some use of those vehicles for the DOI/NPS/DHS etc, but they have already been using various trucks and they don't really need the "pursuit" layout for their offroad needs. The Explorer and Tahoes will be better for their "pursuits". The biggest issue with the PI Utility (Explorer) in its pursuit garb is the lack of "off-road" ability. The approach angle is terrible, the ground clearance is bad, tires for the "pursuit" make is usable in anything worse that well sorted gravel. I have towed these things out of well kept "gardens" because the officer tried to "cut off" someone on foot by taking it across a lawn and gotten stuck. Those "off-road" uses will keep to regular variants if they are smart. Otherwise they will have a fleet of LE vehicles with torn-up front cladding like mine.

I see it more for those rural departments that "want a truck" and don't want the Sedan to serve papers (self-conscious). It would be a "compromise" that you are not tying up your real HWP-like vehicles for serving but you can have something that does a little "pursuit" when needed.

That being said, my "urban" department would love a truck so it can set out cones, etc. They hate using our little Ford Transit Connect for that. So, I would expect that I am directed to purchase one of these trucks fairly soon.
_________________________
'15 Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 - Havoline 5w-30 & OEM
'14 Subaru Outback 2.5 - NAPA 0w-20 & Wix
'01 Toyota MR2 Spyder - Havoline 5w-30 & Wix
'82 Chevy C10

Top
#4469008 - 07/24/17 02:42 PM Re: Ford Police Responder [Re: DoubleWasp]
FutureDoc Offline


Registered: 10/30/13
Posts: 1704
Loc: North Carolina
Originally Posted By: DoubleWasp
Border Patrol will take million please.


They already have it. And yes, you can get it with all the skid plating and off-road kit you want. Edit: And I will take the 6-speed on the SSV over the 10 Speed on the Responder.

http://www.fleet.ford.com/showroom/speciality-vehicle/f-150xl/

This pursuit F150 is an "on-road" truck for the most part. Sure, it has some cladding but look at the approach angle:



Edited by FutureDoc (07/24/17 02:46 PM)
_________________________
'15 Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 - Havoline 5w-30 & OEM
'14 Subaru Outback 2.5 - NAPA 0w-20 & Wix
'01 Toyota MR2 Spyder - Havoline 5w-30 & Wix
'82 Chevy C10

Top
#4469019 - 07/24/17 03:13 PM Re: Ford Police Responder [Re: supton]
double vanos Offline


Registered: 08/05/04
Posts: 1885
Loc: 5600 feet elevation, Arizona
If they'd sell it to the public I'm afraid I'd have to quit eating and get one!
_________________________
Sabine Schmitz is the Queen of the 'Ring; Svetlana Kapanina is the Queen of the SKIES...

Top
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >