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Transfer Pump - ATF change - PS #4467118
07/22/17 11:21 AM
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https://www.harborfreight.com/multi-use-transfer-pump-63144.html

Bought this at harbor freight a few days ago . Cheap enough at $ 5.95 .

This morning I used it on our new-to-us 2006 Buick Lacrosse CX 3.8l . I had driven the Buick this morning on some errands , so the transmission was warm and the fluid " stired up " .

I found an empty 1 gallon plastic jug that had contained windshield wiper fluid .

The pump came with 2 orange plastic flexible tubes , 1 in & 1 out . I pulled the transmission dipstick and shoved the " in " tube down the tip stick tube until it would not go any further . The pump started sucking air just as the 1 gallon jug was filled .

I had ordered 6 - 1 quart bottles of Valvoline Synthetic Dexron VI ( blue bottle ) from Walmart online . In a few minutes , I am going to dump 4 of them into the transmission .

The fluid that came out was darker than it looked , on the dip stick . I am really glad I did this , although I know roughly 1/2 of the old fluid remains in the transmission / torque converter .

I am thinking about doing our 1991 Chevy Caprice 5.0l next . Then , maybe the 2015 Chevy Sonic .

I know this does not get the filter changed , but it has to be better than nothing . And the Sonic does not have a DIY serviceable filter , anyway .


PS Only got about 1-1/2 - 2 quarts out of the Caprice , before it started sucking air .

Last edited by WyrTwister; 07/22/17 11:21 AM.

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Re: Transfer Pump - ATF change - PS [Re: WyrTwister] #4467138
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I tried doing the same thing on my 2002 and the hose stops at the base of the tube. I'm lucky to get 4-6 oz of fluid out before the pump is pushing air. From what I recall, there's a protective clip on the bottom of that tube that is visible from the pan side. I guess the OEM wanted to ensure that foreign material didn't make it all the way down the tube....in this case....a pump hose.


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Re: Transfer Pump - ATF change - PS [Re: WyrTwister] #4467140
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As far as the 2006 Buick Lacrosse CX 3.8l is concerned, you have a 4T65E tranny, Be sure to drive it a few miles stop and go
and then check the new ATF level again, typically it will seem to drop on the dipstick.

That is, a warm engine by idling won't give you a hot tranny with the true ATF level. Top up as needed.

4T65Es don't like low ATF levels even if just on Min on the dipstick, including HD models.

Re: Transfer Pump - ATF change - PS [Re: WyrTwister] #4467142
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I did the exact same thing (on my exact same car) with the same pump. Using the small black hose, I was able to get out exactly 6 quarts of ATF. I did this twice. Then I used it to change the power steering fluid. Here's a writeup I did on that: https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4190408/I_changed_my_p.s._fluid,_it's_
I found that it works pretty well!


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Re: Transfer Pump - ATF change - PS [Re: WyrTwister] #4467182
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Get a smaller diameter tubing, like some polyethylene - - like Ice maker water tube, but a little bigger. (at the hardware store)


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Re: Transfer Pump - ATF change - PS [Re: WyrTwister] #4467220
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I've had a few of those ... they are so cheap I never keep track of where I leave them. Work well for lighter fluids - ATF and engine oil and such. they do get a bit frustrating when it comes to filling differentials. ..


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Re: Transfer Pump - ATF change - PS [Re: WyrTwister] #4467281
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I used to hate pulling the tranny pan, but now it's easy:

- I use a long, wide, 5" tall lid of cheap 100L tupperware-type storage bin to catch all the ATF in one shot!
- I use a cordless driver to remove bolts fast.
- I got scoops sized to tranfer ATF from the catch bin to jugs
- I get to see what's all over the 8 magnets and clean them off!
- I get to replace the tranny filter early!
- gives me a new opportunity to find places to cram more magnets! wink

As a result I skip using transfer pump

Re: Transfer Pump - ATF change - PS [Re: TmanP] #4467284
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Originally Posted By: TmanP
I did the exact same thing (on my exact same car) with the same pump. Using the small black hose, I was able to get out exactly 6 quarts of ATF. I did this twice. Then I used it to change the power steering fluid. Here's a writeup I did on that: https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4190408/I_changed_my_p.s._fluid,_it's_
I found that it works pretty well!


Did not try the black hose . 4 quarts with the orange hose . May need to try the black hose ob the Caprice .

Thanks , :-)


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Re: Transfer Pump - ATF change - PS [Re: WyrTwister] #4467288
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Had not thought of using it on differentials .

They are cheap enough that you could buy one for each of the different types of fluids . If you have several vehicles .

I bought 2 turkey basters , one for PS fluid and one for brake fluid .

Thanks , :-)


Wyr
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Re: Transfer Pump - ATF change - PS [Re: i_hate_autofraud] #4467297
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Originally Posted By: i_hate_autofraud


I used to hate pulling the tranny pan, but now it's easy:

- I use a long, wide, 5" tall lid of cheap 100L tupperware-type storage bin to catch all the ATF in one shot!
- I use a cordless driver to remove bolts fast.
- I got scoops sized to tranfer ATF from the catch bin to jugs
- I get to see what's all over the 8 magnets and clean them off!
- I get to replace the tranny filter early!
- gives me a new opportunity to find places to cram more magnets! wink

As a result I skip using transfer pump


You left out jacking up the car & putting it on jack stand . And getting down on the ground or concrete . Then getting up and down a few times .

Getting up and down is getting more difficult as time goes by , with bad kneed and bad hips . :-(

How many inch-pounds do you torque the pan bolts to ?

Thanks , :-)

Last edited by WyrTwister; 07/22/17 04:22 PM.

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Re: Transfer Pump - ATF change - PS [Re: WyrTwister] #4467880
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Originally Posted By: WyrTwister
Originally Posted By: i_hate_autofraud


I used to hate pulling the tranny pan, but now it's easy:

- I use a long, wide, 5" tall lid of cheap 100L tupperware-type storage bin to catch all the ATF in one shot!
- I use a cordless driver to remove bolts fast.
- I got scoops sized to tranfer ATF from the catch bin to jugs
- I get to see what's all over the 8 magnets and clean them off!
- I get to replace the tranny filter early!
- gives me a new opportunity to find places to cram more magnets! wink

As a result I skip using transfer pump


You left out jacking up the car & putting it on jack stand . And getting down on the ground or concrete . Then getting up and down a few times .

Getting up and down is getting more difficult as time goes by , with bad kneed and bad hips . :-(

How many inch-pounds do you torque the pan bolts to ?

Thanks , :-)


LOL! Good point on hips and knees gettin' up and down! Right now for me that's still a little exercise!

On 4T65E pan bolts torque is 100 inch/Lb - w/o big power tools or you'll go over and may strip
out threads. I cheat a little with a small D cell nicad power screw driver as a nut runner up
to last 1-2 turns, final torque with vintage dial indicating mini torque wrench.

I run the car up on ramps then use jacks to lift the body higher for more elbow room under the car!


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