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Need to soften interior leather that has hardened #4466698
07/21/17 08:17 PM
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Tennessee
OilSwag Offline OP
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My Infiniti is an 03 and interior leather, vinyl, plastic is visibly almost perfect looking still. I bought a used driver side seat replacement and realized just how hard my leather is. The used one I bought is so much softer like leather should be. Came out of the same exact car so it's the same material, year, make, color, etc. I've been trying a few different products. Usually one and done leather you can buy from the usual companies.

I'm not looking for a product to clean or protect. If it does it's a bonus. I'm wanting a way somehow diy or store bought to soften this leather before it splits on me.

I bought the car with high miles from a previous owner who sucked at life so I have no idea if something wrong was used or it just never saw treatments. I have cleaned it numerous times the past 12 months still not softening up on me


03 Infiniti G35 209K, Castrol Edge 5W30 topped with Edge HM, Fram Ultra Filter, Berryman/MMO fuel maintenance in 93 E0, all synthetic fluids
Re: Need to soften interior leather that has hardened [Re: OilSwag] #4466714
07/21/17 08:30 PM
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Leatherique


'98 LEX LS400 280K
'00 LEX GS300 195K
'02 4Runner 225K
'05 Lex LS430 85K
'06 Toyota Highlander 145K
'09 Lex IS350 85K
'07 Lex GX470 60K
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Re: Need to soften interior leather that has hardened [Re: OilSwag] #4466781
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There is a very high chance that it has coated leather, so little can be done to soften it. You could try applying Lexol and letting that sit overnight, if that doesn't have any effect I doubt anything will.


2012 Honda Accord EX-L K24z3
54,xxx miles
PPPP 0w20 / Fram Ultra

2014 VW Jetta SE 1.8T ea888
40,xxx miles
Castrol OEM dealer fill / OEM filter
Re: Need to soften interior leather that has hardened [Re: OilSwag] #4466790
07/21/17 10:14 PM
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Obenauf's is natural and the best!

Re: Need to soften interior leather that has hardened [Re: OilSwag] #4466853
07/22/17 02:21 AM
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Zymol. The beige cream in the clear container. Oh so nice.
I've also had nice luck with Fiebing's Neatsfoot Oil.
https://www.amazon.com/Fiebings-FIBPURE0...s=neatsfoot+oil
It did a nice job on a really horrible looking junkyard seat for an E30 convertible BMW.


too many cars and oil combinations to list in 150 characters or less
Re: Need to soften interior leather that has hardened [Re: Gebo] #4466920
07/22/17 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted By: Gebo
Leatherique


This. It's a bit of a project, but their Rejuvenator a remarkable product.


2017 Chevrolet Corvette Grand Sport
Re: Need to soften interior leather that has hardened [Re: dparm] #4466938
07/22/17 07:41 AM
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I know you have used this product like I have. See all my old cars. You must follow instructuons. Also, I'd buy directly from mfr. There are reports of copy cats. Buy more rejuvinator than cleaner.


Originally Posted By: dparm
Originally Posted By: Gebo
Leatherique


This. It's a bit of a project, but their Rejuvenator a remarkable product.


'98 LEX LS400 280K
'00 LEX GS300 195K
'02 4Runner 225K
'05 Lex LS430 85K
'06 Toyota Highlander 145K
'09 Lex IS350 85K
'07 Lex GX470 60K
Amsoil in all engines, transmissions and differentials

Re: Need to soften interior leather that has hardened [Re: SumpChump] #4467061
07/22/17 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted By: SumpChump
Obenauf's is natural and the best!


Another vote for Obenauf's here. Use the combo here as per directions and you will do the best you can: http://www.obenaufs.com/automotive-leather-conditioning-s/121.htm

Re: Need to soften interior leather that has hardened [Re: OilSwag] #4467223
07/22/17 01:50 PM
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Just a note concerning Nissan/Infiniti leather.

There's two different grades of leather used in the early aught models. There's the premium "supple" type and the "sport" leather option. They're very different in texture.

The "sport" leather is a cheaper grade though they look identical. It's firmer and what I suspect you had as OEM. It sounds like the replacement may have been the more premium style. It's hard to differentiate unless you have them side by side, which you have.

BMW has the same issue and I'm sure other makers do too. When I worked at the Bimmer dealership we had to use the VIN to determine what type of leather options were available, and then the archived Monroney sticker to further narrow it down. There were approximately 30 different options encompassing four styles/grades of leather.

So if as I suspect they're two different grades of leather, you're not going to make one more like the other. But if I'm wrong and it's just that one is softer than the other, there's only one product I've ever tried in 40+ years of automotive detailing that does what it states:

[img]https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0604/4...eg?v=1476701766[/img]

Leather Master's VITAL. If you are in need of intense softening of the leather this is the only way to go.

My recommendation would be to purchase the Leather Master Bundle off Amazon for $35:

Leather Bundle

1.Clean all of the seats twice with the Soft Cleaner.

2.Then use a good bit of the VITAL on the seats that need to be softened. My recommendation is to do one round of application and let that soak in overnight/24 hours. Then buff it out and do another round and let it set overnight once more.

3. Buff out the second coating, then apply the LPC (leather protection cream) to all of the seats. Let it sit about 15-30 minutes and then buff it out. Wait overnight before you drive it.

If you try to drive it a couple of hours after the Creams have been buffed out then you're going to get an issue where the sweat and the oils from your body are intermingling with the still-moist layer of LPC which is going to hinder its ability to cure properly.

I've tried almost everything on the market, and that's not just hyperbole.

Re: Need to soften interior leather that has hardened [Re: OilSwag] #4467225
07/22/17 01:57 PM
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Woolite and warm water, 1:3 parts. It used to be in the Cadillac owners manual for cleaning leather. Then put on protectant of choice. If you don't have Woolite then some Tide Free seems to work pretty well, same ratio. I use it on the leather wrapped steering wheel, shifter, etc.

Re: Need to soften interior leather that has hardened [Re: OilSwag] #4468456
07/23/17 08:41 PM
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I've tried a number of products on my Mustang seats. Originals were shredded, eventually got a pretty solid deal on the nice replacements (hard to find, harder to find for a fair price). Anyhow, they were rather stiff feeling, so I wanted to condition them before install.

First I tried Lexol conditioner with no perceivable change.
Then I tried Obenauf's leather OIL. This helped a bit, but not everywhere. Still was better than not using it.
Then I tried Meguiars Gold Class. This didn't seem to do too much, but its quick, easy and well reputed so I use it to clean/maintain now.

Not sure if the seats were re-dyes or what but the driver seat has really broken in quite a bit. Still in good shape, but a lot of dark discoloration after using it as a DD with black scrub pants for a year. Oh well, still holding up well and much better than the original seats.


2011 F150 4x4 5.0L
1996 Mustang GT 5spd/ragtop
Re: Need to soften interior leather that has hardened [Re: OilSwag] #4471211
07/26/17 04:07 PM
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OilSwag Offline OP
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Awesome, thanks for the replies. The sport vs premium is kinda confusing. My car is a G35 premium edition with sport package. The leather in my car is all the stiff type and the replacement used seat is really soft so might be the difference and correct about the two differences. I'm gonna try above suggestions and see if any change is noticed. Ive always had leather but I hate hard leather, not pleasant to touch. Like a Clay barred car before and after is the difference in my opinion


03 Infiniti G35 209K, Castrol Edge 5W30 topped with Edge HM, Fram Ultra Filter, Berryman/MMO fuel maintenance in 93 E0, all synthetic fluids
Re: Need to soften interior leather that has hardened [Re: OilSwag] #4471552
07/27/17 12:57 AM
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Re: Need to soften interior leather that has hardened [Re: Gebo] #4471808
07/27/17 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted By: Gebo
Leatherique


+1000 It takes some time but it is by far the best product for leather restoration.


2017 Chevy Traverse - 28k - Delco Dexos 1 and PF63
2014 Chevy Equinox - 22k - Delco Dexos 1 and PF457G
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Re: Need to soften interior leather that has hardened [Re: OilSwag] #4471853
07/27/17 09:51 AM
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This is the only one I've had experience with


'98 LEX LS400 280K
'00 LEX GS300 195K
'02 4Runner 225K
'05 Lex LS430 85K
'06 Toyota Highlander 145K
'09 Lex IS350 85K
'07 Lex GX470 60K
Amsoil in all engines, transmissions and differentials

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