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messed up #4465727
07/21/17 02:46 AM
07/21/17 02:46 AM
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MrTruckDriver Offline OP
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so i was changing the fluid and filter on my truck with a 4l60e. when removing the old filter seal i managed to scratch the inside of the bore on the trans. just like they say not to do.
the damage about half the depth of the new seal. the filter seal is metal where it contacts the trans bore. i put everything back together and everything is working normal.
question is how bad of a screw up is it and is it possibly causing damage to the transmission?
i feel pretty dumb to say the least.

Re: messed up [Re: MrTruckDriver] #4465733
07/21/17 03:07 AM
07/21/17 03:07 AM
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If you are talking about the spot where the filter grommet fits in, I wouldn't worry about it. Fluid isn't going to bypass the filter because of a scratch which is covered by the sleeve. If the filter fits in snugly, I don't bother even changing those sleeves as they can be reused many times.

Last edited by Lubener; 07/21/17 03:09 AM.

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Re: messed up [Re: MrTruckDriver] #4465746
07/21/17 03:53 AM
07/21/17 03:53 AM
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I've never replaced the filter seal. I tried to the first ATF change but decided against it after my pick kept slipping off and a flat heat didn't work with light taps from a a hammer.

I'd agree that it won't cause any damage.


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Re: messed up [Re: MrTruckDriver] #4465817
07/21/17 06:06 AM
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Not to worry. I change them out without issues, you do have to be careful when you do change them out but like posted above, most probably never change them and everything is fine.


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Re: messed up [Re: Rat407] #4465886
07/21/17 07:40 AM
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Should be fine.
They can be difficult to remove.
I use a flat head screwdriver and pry them out.
Never had an issue.
Use a same size sockets drive end to tap into place (gently) with a hammer.

Re: messed up [Re: MrTruckDriver] #4466110
07/21/17 11:17 AM
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The seal receptacle in my vette is all scratched up. It grabs second hard enough to break both tires loose, so I'm thinking the line pressure is still pretty good.

I got smart and quit changing the seal.


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Re: messed up [Re: MrTruckDriver] #4466613
07/21/17 07:10 PM
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There needs to be a Public Service Announcement that says......DO NOT change the Suction Filter Seal on a 4L60E except during overhaul!!


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Re: messed up [Re: MrTruckDriver] #4466665
07/21/17 07:48 PM
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AVB Offline
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lol. We used to use bent screwdrivers to pull them out. I stopped bothering with changing them.

Re: messed up [Re: MrTruckDriver] #4466852
07/22/17 02:16 AM
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MrTruckDriver Offline OP
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thanks for all the replies. the fords ive worked on just have simple plastic ones. this one is a completely different beast.
im guessing the worst case would be it would suck in air with the oil and damage the pump.
its looking like im worrying more then i need to though.

Last edited by MrTruckDriver; 07/22/17 02:17 AM.
Re: messed up [Re: clinebarger] #4467131
07/22/17 11:42 AM
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Lubener Offline
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Originally Posted By: clinebarger
There needs to be a Public Service Announcement that says......DO NOT change the Suction Filter Seal on a 4L60E except during overhaul!!


Done.


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Re: messed up [Re: Lubener] #4467171
07/22/17 12:30 PM
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