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#4464890 - 07/20/17 12:30 PM Alternative to Fram PH8170 filter for a Briggs?
Throckmorton Offline


Registered: 12/09/06
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Loc: Texas
Are there any alternatives you would recommend to a Fram PH8170 or Briggs and Stratton 492932 oil filter for a 25 hp V-twin Briggs and Stratton engine? At ~ $12-15 it looks as if these filters are relatively expensive because they are so short and have few applications. It looks like I can fit a 1-1.5" longer filter. Does anyone have a list of cross references for slightly longer filters?

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#4464894 - 07/20/17 12:33 PM Re: Alternative to Fram PH8170 filter for a Briggs? [Re: Throckmorton]
Linctex Offline


Registered: 12/31/16
Posts: 6148
Loc: Waco, TX
Originally Posted By: Throckmorton
Are there any alternatives you would recommend to a Fram PH8170 ... It looks like I can fit a 1-1.5" longer filter.


Try a PH3614. It's about 3/4" longer.

Super Tech (a.k.a Napa Select) ST3614 will run about $3
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#4464895 - 07/20/17 12:36 PM Re: Alternative to Fram PH8170 filter for a Briggs? [Re: Throckmorton]
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#4464918 - 07/20/17 12:46 PM Re: Alternative to Fram PH8170 filter for a Briggs? [Re: Throckmorton]
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Loc: North Carolina
Why go for a longer filter of inferior construction? The PH8170 is very well built: metal end caps and all.

How much filter volume does a little Briggs honestly need?
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#4464923 - 07/20/17 12:50 PM Re: Alternative to Fram PH8170 filter for a Briggs? [Re: Throckmorton]
Bgallagher Offline


Registered: 04/17/12
Posts: 3159
Loc: Boston, MA
Replacement oil filters for Fram PH8170:

Baldwin

B7165


Beck/Arnley

041-0767

041-8078

Bosch

0986452058


CARQUEST

85065


Champ

LF503


CROSLAND

2099


CUB CADET

120-5008


Donaldson

P502024


HASTINGS

LF503


John Deere

AM125424

AM125424C

AM131948

GY20577


KAWASAKI

49065-7007


LISTER-PETTER

751-12870


LUBER-FINER

PH3656


NAPA

1056

1056MP

7035


Tecumseh

36563

36961

740057

Wix

51056

57035
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#4464926 - 07/20/17 12:52 PM Re: Alternative to Fram PH8170 filter for a Briggs? [Re: Throckmorton]
jsfalls Offline


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Loc: USA
I always just use a ~$3 PH3614 filter on my small engines. Almost $15 for a lawn mower oil filter is crazy.
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#4464937 - 07/20/17 12:59 PM Re: Alternative to Fram PH8170 filter for a Briggs? [Re: Throckmorton]
Squirrelee Offline


Registered: 09/11/11
Posts: 90
Loc: Ol' Kentuck
I made a list years ago using Purolator numbers:

Stock size (X-Small) - L35310

Small - L10241

Medium - L20195

Large - L30001

X-Large - L40017

I typically run the L10241 (uses 2 quarts right on the nose). Convert to any filter manufacturer you prefer.
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#4464972 - 07/20/17 01:33 PM Re: Alternative to Fram PH8170 filter for a Briggs? [Re: Throckmorton]
tig1 Offline


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Loc: Illinois
I use the MC FL910S on my Briggs 21HP riding mower.
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#4465087 - 07/20/17 03:31 PM Re: Alternative to Fram PH8170 filter for a Briggs? [Re: Throckmorton]
BrianF Offline


Registered: 02/25/15
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Loc: Sask, Canada
Fram 3614 fits great in my Craftsman T3200. The top of the line Ultra is still cheaper than the 8170.
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#4465094 - 07/20/17 03:37 PM Re: Alternative to Fram PH8170 filter for a Briggs? [Re: Throckmorton]
901Memphis Offline


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Loc: Northern Kentucky
The Fram Ultra XG3614 is constructed well and has very good specs
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#4465095 - 07/20/17 03:38 PM Re: Alternative to Fram PH8170 filter for a Briggs? [Re: BrianF]
Throckmorton Offline


Registered: 12/09/06
Posts: 612
Loc: Texas
Originally Posted By: BrianF
Fram 3614 fits great in my Craftsman T3200. The top of the line Ultra is still cheaper than the 8170.
That's what I was thinking. I can probably get a toughguard TG3614 for less than the cost of a PH8170. I'm pretty certain the toughguard is a better filter too.

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#4465112 - 07/20/17 03:51 PM Re: Alternative to Fram PH8170 filter for a Briggs? [Re: Throckmorton]
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Registered: 02/25/15
Posts: 548
Loc: Sask, Canada
I have the toughguard on as we speak. Even with the terrible regular Canadian prices, it was much cheaper and according to the filter dissections on this site they are a well built filter that, in my mind will have no issues running stock or longer changes.

I have yet to see a toughguard or Ultra with torn media or in general garbage construction. I will run the TG for the 100 hour index and rip it open to have a look.
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#4465120 - 07/20/17 03:56 PM Re: Alternative to Fram PH8170 filter for a Briggs? [Re: Throckmorton]
mattwithcats Offline


Registered: 06/13/13
Posts: 1658
Loc: Virginia
The Fram 3600 or Purolator 20195 may fit,
same base as the 3614, but nearly five inches long,
The 3614 is three and a half inches long,

It also holds eight more ounces of oil, the 3614 holds four more...

I run the AutoZone STP blue S3600 on my Craftsman LT200 lawn tractor,
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#4465150 - 07/20/17 04:18 PM Re: Alternative to Fram PH8170 filter for a Briggs? [Re: rooflessVW]
Linctex Offline


Registered: 12/31/16
Posts: 6148
Loc: Waco, TX
Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
Why go for a longer filter of inferior construction?
How much filter volume does a little Briggs honestly need?


It does NOT need a bigger filter. He explained his purpose very clearly:
Originally Posted By: Throckmorton
At ~ $12-15 it looks as if these filters are relatively expensive because they are so short and have few applications.


I think a $3 super tech will be just fine, I've been running ST3614's on big Briggs, Onan and Kohler engines for years and years and years ......
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#4465195 - 07/20/17 04:58 PM Re: Alternative to Fram PH8170 filter for a Briggs? [Re: Throckmorton]
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Loc: Virginia
But the 3600 is the same price as the 3614, in fact, it may be cheaper,.

Only problem is clearance...
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