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1st brake job on my 2012 Honda Accord #4464531
07/20/17 03:41 AM
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My 2012 Accord has 70,000 miles on it and the rotors are wraped badly. The pads have lots of meat left but I cant stand the car shaking when I hit the breaks so I'm going to replace everything. A good friend of mine can get me parts at NAPA at a pretty good discount so I'd like to take him up on that offer. What would you say is the best parts for this job that I can get at NAPA? The factory rotors started warping between 40,000 and 50,000 miles and slowly got worse till now at 70.000 miles. I'd like to get a rotor that would resist warping and pads that last and bite well too. Are Ultra Premium rotors and adaptive One pads a good combo? Thanks for any recommendation!!!

Last edited by Chris B.; 07/20/17 03:51 AM. Reason: spelling
Re: 1st break job on my 2012 Honda Accord [Re: Chris B.] #4464533
07/20/17 03:49 AM
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That's two times in a row tonight that you misspelled "brake" in a thread title. grin2

Re: 1st break job on my 2012 Honda Accord [Re: Merkava_4] #4464534
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Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
That's two times in a row tonight that you misspelled "brake" in a thread title. grin2


Oh dang! It is 3am and I'm dead tired but that is no excuse haha!

Re: 1st break job on my 2012 Honda Accord [Re: Chris B.] #4464535
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We'll let you slide this time - pun intended. grin2

Re: 1st break job on my 2012 Honda Accord [Re: Chris B.] #4464536
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The scenario you described sounds very normal for most imports that use ceramic pads from the factory.

You can either have the rotors machined using an on-car-lathe (not bench lathe) or you can remove the old rotors, clean off the rust on the hub very well and install new premium rotors (Napa Ultra prem should be ok). Make sure you measure the runout and confirm that it is under 0.002." Sand the old pads lightly and re-use them.

Be sure to check your rear brakes. At your mileage, the rear pads should be due soon.


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Re: 1st break job on my 2012 Honda Accord [Re: The Critic] #4464569
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My neighbor's 2010 Accord had near bone dry, STICKY pins in the rear brakes.

One pad cocked so it wore crookedly, hit the warning tang and I got a phone call.

ERGO address cleaning and lubing the pins.

Re: 1st brake job on my 2012 Honda Accord [Re: Chris B.] #4464570
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Originally Posted By: Chris B.
Are Ultra Premium rotors and adaptive One pads a good combo? Thanks for any recommendation!!!


I tried the adaptive one pads on a 2009 Malibu, as you probably know the theory behind them are different friction material between the inside and outside pad. I found in my scenario they quickly lead to a pulsating pedal and had less bite than the factory pads. I switched to Akebono Pro Act pads and was much happier. It looks like NAPA has an Akebono pad for your Accord that may be worth a try.

I liked the adaptive one Pads enough at first to recommend them and install a set in my mom's 2007 Camry. In her car, the pulsating pedal isn't an issue but they are noisy while backing up and when cold, and offer significantly less bite than the factory pads to the point she noticed and complains about it.

New rotors were installed on both brake jobs.

Just my experience... different cars, different environment etc.

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Re: 1st break job on my 2012 Honda Accord [Re: Merkava_4] #4464590
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Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
That's two times in a row tonight that you misspelled "brake" in a thread title. grin2


He was sleepy and just needed to take a brake,um,I mean break haha laugh


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Re: 1st break job on my 2012 Honda Accord [Re: Chris B.] #4464594
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Have your NAPA contact have the rotors turned. They'll probably last until the pads are actually worn out. I have a buddy who did my Buick rotors for (free) a few cold ones. The pads still are not worn out.


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Re: 1st break job on my 2012 Honda Accord [Re: Chris B.] #4464617
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If the rotors are actually warped, it is most likely caused by improper wheel nut torque. Quality of rotor has nothing to do with it.

This is assuming the brakes (NOT breaks GAH!) are properly serviced at least once a year.

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Re: 1st break job on my 2012 Honda Accord [Re: Merkava_4] #4464624
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Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
That's two times in a row tonight that you misspelled "brake" in a thread title. grin2


That seems to be a rampant error on this site, almost as bad as the misuse of there, they're, and their, or your and you're.

Re: 1st break job on my 2012 Honda Accord [Re: Chris B.] #4464630
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There are several TSB's for Accords having brake shudder. It could be warped rotors or material transfer to the rotor. You could have them turned if there is enough material. If you go new, be diligent about removing any rust from the hub. Make sure your wheel surfaces are cleaned up too.


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Re: 1st break job on my 2012 Honda Accord [Re: mightymousetech] #4464648
07/20/17 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted By: mightymousetech
If the rotors are actually warped, it is most likely caused by improper wheel nut torque. Quality of rotor has nothing to do with it.

This is assuming the brakes (NOT breaks GAH!) are properly serviced at least once a year.


I second this opinion. You will be surprised how over torqued the lug nuts can be when they use those powerful impact drivers. Even my Mercedes dealer had mine way way over specs. Discount tire is one of the few that is careful about this and uses torque sticks.

Re: 1st brake job on my 2012 Honda Accord [Re: Chris B.] #4464747
07/20/17 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted By: Chris B.
My 2012 Accord has 70,000 miles on it and the rotors are wraped badly. The pads have lots of meat left but I cant stand the car shaking when I hit the breaks so I'm going to replace everything. A good friend of mine can get me parts at NAPA at a pretty good discount so I'd like to take him up on that offer. What would you say is the best parts for this job that I can get at NAPA? The factory rotors started warping between 40,000 and 50,000 miles and slowly got worse till now at 70.000 miles. I'd like to get a rotor that would resist warping and pads that last and bite well too. Are Ultra Premium rotors and adaptive One pads a good combo? Thanks for any recommendation!!!

I am running Ultra Premiums and Adaptive One's on my Honda Pilot for the last 10K miles and are very happy with them. My AO's are made in Canada and rated GG, both make me happy. They have plenty of bite. My buddy has had AO's on his Volvo's for several years now. No pulsating problems.

The "best parts" may include SilGlyde as well, but other brake-qualified greases will do.

The rotors pulsating or "warping" may happen again unless you check parallelism, rotor runout, and properly bed the brakes (not breaks). These are simple things to do, but many people would rather trust random chance and claim "these things are set at the factory" or other nonsense.

I have the instruments, I've had to correct for runout by re-indexing the rotors. Yet some people would rather be blind and trust to luck. My cheap C-Tek rotors on the Toyota have 58K with zero "warping" feeling when braking. I've lubed the brakes once since I put them on and that's it. But I did check parallelism and corrected for runout when I installed them 3 years ago.

Re: 1st break job on my 2012 Honda Accord [Re: Stevie] #4464748
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Originally Posted By: Stevie
Even my Mercedes dealer had mine way way over specs. Discount tire is one of the few that is careful about this and uses torque sticks.


You just contradicted yourself. You said they're careful, and use torque sticks.

Careful would mean using a torque wrench.


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