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Ecogard vs. Fram Ultra/Pro Synthetic #4464311
07/19/17 06:36 PM
07/19/17 06:36 PM
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Pylesville, MD
bandz7 Offline OP
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Local auto parts store story...

In my area we have a store that sells Fram. As I was looking for a 7317 Ultra, an employee tells me, "don't use that fram [censored], we're starting to carry these ecogards, they're made by wix and they're better than those frams!"

I respond by saying, the Ultra is one of the best filters available period.

He tells me to hold an ecogard to feel how heavy it is. Which apparently makes it much better.

I decided to give up.

Ecogards are made in China and not by wix, correct?


1986 GMC Jimmy S-15 Chevron Delo 15W-40
2001 Corvette Z06 PU 5W-30 RT6 5W-40/MoS2
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Re: Ecogard vs. Fram Ultra/Pro Synthetic [Re: bandz7] #4464316
07/19/17 06:52 PM
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I just noticed that rockauto has EcoGard Premium which they list with Fram PH filters, and EcoGard Synthetic + which they're comparing to Fram TG / XG's.

I've never used EcoGards before and I'm also curious who makes them and any opinions...

Re: Ecogard vs. Fram Ultra/Pro Synthetic [Re: bandz7] #4464318
07/19/17 06:56 PM
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They are made by IPC Global Solutions. Which they say they use a factory that makes other filters on it. Not sure otherwise.


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Re: Ecogard vs. Fram Ultra/Pro Synthetic [Re: bandz7] #4464321
07/19/17 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted By: bandz7

Ecogards are made in China and not by wix, correct?


I got a few for my Jeeps a couple of years ago. They were from RockAuto, sold really cheap and made in China. They weren't a bad filter and I had no problems with them, but you just don't know the filtering spec on them. I'm pretty sure there is an Ecogard rep on this site who has posted a couple of times in the past, might be scarce on this subject. Gosh, if only those parts jockeys made a commission on all of their parts recommendations....

Re: Ecogard vs. Fram Ultra/Pro Synthetic [Re: bandz7] #4464330
07/19/17 07:22 PM
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Pylesville, MD
bandz7 Offline OP
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The specs on ecogards are about 88% @ 20 and the synthetics are about 97% @ 20. They don't seem terrible from the ones I've seen cut open, but they don't seem on par with the top of the line filters


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Re: Ecogard vs. Fram Ultra/Pro Synthetic [Re: bandz7] #4464338
07/19/17 07:30 PM
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I hate cashiers commenting at all on what I'm buying, let along giving their (ignorant and uninformed) opinion on it.

Re: Ecogard vs. Fram Ultra/Pro Synthetic [Re: bandz7] #4464339
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The Ultra/FPS is much better than any Chinese Ecogard

Re: Ecogard vs. Fram Ultra/Pro Synthetic [Re: bandz7] #4464349
07/19/17 07:50 PM
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Cincinnati, OH, USA
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They have issues with interior rust, and their "synthetic" is actually a blend, not a wire backed full synthetic. Pass.


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Re: Ecogard vs. Fram Ultra/Pro Synthetic [Re: bandz7] #4464366
07/19/17 08:07 PM
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in the shop
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I use RA closeouts 90% of the time on my vehicles. Oil filters are way over worried about...


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Re: Ecogard vs. Fram Ultra/Pro Synthetic [Re: bandz7] #4464373
07/19/17 08:15 PM
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Katy, Republic of Texas
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Yup, as said, not a Wix made filter, these are made in China as a budget filter for quickie lube places. They are starting to show up in retail channels now.

I cut a regular and synthetic EcoGard and posted them here:

Premium EcoGard X4651

Synthetic EcoGard S4651

The Premium is a touch below the Extra Guard.
The Synthetic is probably on par with he Tough Guard.

I have one of each left that I will use on my F150. Not sure if I will be using them after I am done with the 2 I have.


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2007 Vue: VSP 5w-30/EcoGard/OLM
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2002 F150: GTX HM 5w-20/EcoGard/1yr
1994 VT1100c: Peak 15w-40/PSL/5k



Re: Ecogard vs. Fram Ultra/Pro Synthetic [Re: bandz7] #4464380
07/19/17 08:21 PM
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Where the wind comes sweepin'
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Where the wind comes sweepin'
Let people trash on the Fram Ultra...because it just means more for the rest of us.

Re: Ecogard vs. Fram Ultra/Pro Synthetic [Re: bandz7] #4464421
07/19/17 09:07 PM
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Usually just the look in my eye will end unsolicited comments on my shopping choices mid-sentence. But this is one more reason I like buying on-line for pickup in-store, or delivery to my home.


"No matter how paranoid you are you're not paranoid enough. Tell the truth. Reach as many people as you can with it. That's your weapon." - Susanne Modeski, aka "Holly" to The Lone Gunmen
Re: Ecogard vs. Fram Ultra/Pro Synthetic [Re: blupupher] #4464438
07/19/17 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted By: blupupher
Yup, as said, not a Wix made filter, these are made in China as a budget filter for quickie lube places. They are starting to show up in retail channels now.

I cut a regular and synthetic EcoGard and posted them here:

Premium EcoGard X4651

Synthetic EcoGard S4651

The Premium is a touch below the Extra Guard.
The Synthetic is probably on par with he Tough Guard.

I have one of each left that I will use on my F150. Not sure if I will be using them after I am done with the 2 I have.


I just read through all your posts... I was impressed the company responded to you so quickly. I was about to order one from rockauto to try it out, then saw your second thread and how the oil leaked out.

I didn't order one after that lol.

Re: Ecogard vs. Fram Ultra/Pro Synthetic [Re: bandz7] #4464453
07/19/17 09:52 PM
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Idaho
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Fram will fix your engine if the filter causes a failure will ecoguards mfg?


2015 Ford F150 2.7
2018 Ford F350 6.2
Re: Ecogard vs. Fram Ultra/Pro Synthetic [Re: VetteElite] #4464474
07/19/17 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted By: VetteElite
I hate cashiers commenting at all on what I'm buying, let along giving their (ignorant and uninformed) opinion on it.

"Are you sure that oil isn't too thin?" is my favorite.
Got variations of that question from ~1/3rd of the cashiers when buying Autozone clearance PU and Castrol 0W-40.

Come to think of it, recently a cashier at Advance also 'warned' me about Fram while I was buying their last half priced clearance Toughguard.


2001 Lexus ES300, 235k mi, German Castrol 0w-40, Fram TG8316
1985 BMW R80RT (1L)- M1 15w-50
1993 Volvo 945 Turbo- Rotella T5 10W-30 (CJ-4)
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