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#4464311 - 07/19/17 07:36 PM Ecogard vs. Fram Ultra/Pro Synthetic
bandz7 Offline


Registered: 03/15/09
Posts: 165
Loc: Pylesville, MD
Local auto parts store story...

In my area we have a store that sells Fram. As I was looking for a 7317 Ultra, an employee tells me, "don't use that fram [censored], we're starting to carry these ecogards, they're made by wix and they're better than those frams!"

I respond by saying, the Ultra is one of the best filters available period.

He tells me to hold an ecogard to feel how heavy it is. Which apparently makes it much better.

I decided to give up.

Ecogards are made in China and not by wix, correct?
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#4464316 - 07/19/17 07:52 PM Re: Ecogard vs. Fram Ultra/Pro Synthetic [Re: bandz7]
copcarguy Offline


Registered: 12/06/12
Posts: 333
Loc: PA
I just noticed that rockauto has EcoGard Premium which they list with Fram PH filters, and EcoGard Synthetic + which they're comparing to Fram TG / XG's.

I've never used EcoGards before and I'm also curious who makes them and any opinions...

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#4464318 - 07/19/17 07:56 PM Re: Ecogard vs. Fram Ultra/Pro Synthetic [Re: bandz7]
JBinTX30 Offline


Registered: 09/08/14
Posts: 475
Loc: Texas
They are made by IPC Global Solutions. Which they say they use a factory that makes other filters on it. Not sure otherwise.
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#4464321 - 07/19/17 07:59 PM Re: Ecogard vs. Fram Ultra/Pro Synthetic [Re: bandz7]
Kruse Offline


Registered: 10/05/05
Posts: 4295
Loc: Kansas
Originally Posted By: bandz7

Ecogards are made in China and not by wix, correct?


I got a few for my Jeeps a couple of years ago. They were from RockAuto, sold really cheap and made in China. They weren't a bad filter and I had no problems with them, but you just don't know the filtering spec on them. I'm pretty sure there is an Ecogard rep on this site who has posted a couple of times in the past, might be scarce on this subject. Gosh, if only those parts jockeys made a commission on all of their parts recommendations....

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#4464330 - 07/19/17 08:22 PM Re: Ecogard vs. Fram Ultra/Pro Synthetic [Re: bandz7]
bandz7 Offline


Registered: 03/15/09
Posts: 165
Loc: Pylesville, MD
The specs on ecogards are about 88% @ 20 and the synthetics are about 97% @ 20. They don't seem terrible from the ones I've seen cut open, but they don't seem on par with the top of the line filters
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#4464338 - 07/19/17 08:30 PM Re: Ecogard vs. Fram Ultra/Pro Synthetic [Re: bandz7]
VetteElite Offline


Registered: 04/20/13
Posts: 115
Loc: -
I hate cashiers commenting at all on what I'm buying, let along giving their (ignorant and uninformed) opinion on it.

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#4464339 - 07/19/17 08:30 PM Re: Ecogard vs. Fram Ultra/Pro Synthetic [Re: bandz7]
slacktide_bitog Offline


Registered: 03/20/08
Posts: 6156
Loc: USA
The Ultra/FPS is much better than any Chinese Ecogard

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#4464349 - 07/19/17 08:50 PM Re: Ecogard vs. Fram Ultra/Pro Synthetic [Re: bandz7]
bullwinkle Online   confused


Registered: 10/09/04
Posts: 7666
Loc: Cincinnati, OH, USA
They have issues with interior rust, and their "synthetic" is actually a blend, not a wire backed full synthetic. Pass.
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#4464366 - 07/19/17 09:07 PM Re: Ecogard vs. Fram Ultra/Pro Synthetic [Re: bandz7]
sw99 Offline


Registered: 03/22/06
Posts: 2120
Loc: Colorado
I use RA closeouts 90% of the time on my vehicles. Oil filters are way over worried about...
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#4464373 - 07/19/17 09:15 PM Re: Ecogard vs. Fram Ultra/Pro Synthetic [Re: bandz7]
blupupher Offline


Registered: 08/27/04
Posts: 4421
Loc: Katy, Republic of Texas
Yup, as said, not a Wix made filter, these are made in China as a budget filter for quickie lube places. They are starting to show up in retail channels now.

I cut a regular and synthetic EcoGard and posted them here:

Premium EcoGard X4651

Synthetic EcoGard S4651

The Premium is a touch below the Extra Guard.
The Synthetic is probably on par with he Tough Guard.

I have one of each left that I will use on my F150. Not sure if I will be using them after I am done with the 2 I have.
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#4464380 - 07/19/17 09:21 PM Re: Ecogard vs. Fram Ultra/Pro Synthetic [Re: bandz7]
Reddy45 Offline


Registered: 08/15/08
Posts: 2968
Loc: USA
Let people trash on the Fram Ultra...because it just means more for the rest of us.

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#4464421 - 07/19/17 10:07 PM Re: Ecogard vs. Fram Ultra/Pro Synthetic [Re: bandz7]
Nyogtha Offline


Registered: 10/13/14
Posts: 2327
Loc: San Antonio, TX
Usually just the look in my eye will end unsolicited comments on my shopping choices mid-sentence. But this is one more reason I like buying on-line for pickup in-store, or delivery to my home.
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#4464438 - 07/19/17 10:32 PM Re: Ecogard vs. Fram Ultra/Pro Synthetic [Re: blupupher]
copcarguy Offline


Registered: 12/06/12
Posts: 333
Loc: PA
Originally Posted By: blupupher
Yup, as said, not a Wix made filter, these are made in China as a budget filter for quickie lube places. They are starting to show up in retail channels now.

I cut a regular and synthetic EcoGard and posted them here:

Premium EcoGard X4651

Synthetic EcoGard S4651

The Premium is a touch below the Extra Guard.
The Synthetic is probably on par with he Tough Guard.

I have one of each left that I will use on my F150. Not sure if I will be using them after I am done with the 2 I have.


I just read through all your posts... I was impressed the company responded to you so quickly. I was about to order one from rockauto to try it out, then saw your second thread and how the oil leaked out.

I didn't order one after that lol.

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#4464453 - 07/19/17 10:52 PM Re: Ecogard vs. Fram Ultra/Pro Synthetic [Re: bandz7]
CT8 Offline


Registered: 10/09/14
Posts: 10967
Loc: Idaho
Fram will fix your engine if the filter causes a failure will ecoguards mfg?
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#4464474 - 07/19/17 11:23 PM Re: Ecogard vs. Fram Ultra/Pro Synthetic [Re: VetteElite]
mooferz Offline


Registered: 01/30/16
Posts: 325
Loc: TX
Originally Posted By: VetteElite
I hate cashiers commenting at all on what I'm buying, let along giving their (ignorant and uninformed) opinion on it.

"Are you sure that oil isn't too thin?" is my favorite.
Got variations of that question from ~1/3rd of the cashiers when buying Autozone clearance PU and Castrol 0W-40.

Come to think of it, recently a cashier at Advance also 'warned' me about Fram while I was buying their last half priced clearance Toughguard.
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