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New S&W M&P 9mm Shield after 300 rounds #4464184
07/19/17 03:36 PM
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The first 200 rounds were the Winchester white box FMJ 115 grain. I'm ready to ship this defective [removed] back to S&W! Failing to eject, failing to fire, stovepipes, you name it! I tried 3 different magazines with the same results. This pistol is field stripped and cleaned after each range visit. My friend who owns the range and 2 of his employees said to send it back. It acted the same way when they fired it, and everybody critiqued the ones shooting..and no 'limp wristing' was going on, so I decided yesterday to send it back. But before I left the range, I decided to buy a box of Freedom munitions 9mm 115 grain reload bullets. It fired 50 rounds perfectly! I tried 50 rounds of Blazerbrass today with not a single hiccup. I guess this pistol just doesn't like the Winchester WB ammo. Has Winchester had some QC issues lately, because I had a problem with at least 1 bullet in almost every magazine I used.

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Re: New S&W M&P 9mm Shield after 300 rounds [Re: gman2304] #4464193
07/19/17 03:44 PM
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I could see that. WWB will run a little funky in my 1911 and Federal aluminum will run like garbage in my wife's M&P 9C, but perfectly fine in my Shield. Also, I'm pretty sure that WWB will run fine in my Shield- but it's been a while and I could be mixing up the 1911 and the Shield, but I am positive it centered around the WWB.


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Re: New S&W M&P 9mm Shield after 300 rounds [Re: gman2304] #4464196
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Is this from the batch that was being sold super, super cheap very recently?
I learned my S&W lesson after buying a Smegma 9mm. Switched to German-made Sig Sauers and have cursed S&W's new plastic semi autos since.


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Re: New S&W M&P 9mm Shield after 300 rounds [Re: gman2304] #4464207
07/19/17 03:59 PM
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My experience has been that WWB ammo is garbage (mostly accuracy issues and fouling). I much prefer Federal...........or just about anyone else. However, I would expect my weapon to cycle regardless. I'd send it back.


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Re: New S&W M&P 9mm Shield after 300 rounds [Re: L_Sludger] #4464216
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Originally Posted By: L_Sludger
Is this from the batch that was being sold super, super cheap very recently?
I learned my S&W lesson after buying a Smegma 9mm. Switched to German-made Sig Sauers and have cursed S&W's new plastic semi autos since.



Yes, with the S&W $75 rebate I ended up paying roughly $215 for the 9mm Shield. After shooting the last 100 rounds perfectly, with 2 different brands of ammo, actually cheap ammo, I'm thinking it's the WWB rather than the pistol. I have 250 rounds coming from Freedom munitions, so time will tell.

Re: New S&W M&P 9mm Shield after 300 rounds [Re: gman2304] #4464236
07/19/17 04:40 PM
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Sounds like the M&P 9mm Shield a friend of mine got. Same symptoms. He has already sent it back once and it's still doing the same thing. He has to send it back again. He's tried different magazines, different ammo, and still gets the same results.

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Re: New S&W M&P 9mm Shield after 300 rounds [Re: gman2304] #4464243
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At one time WWB was an excellent low cost FMJ practice ammo but times change and I hear it has many issues. As for your M&P Shield the pistol as a whole is extremely reliable I have many friends that have them including myself all of us have between 1,000-3,400 rounds fired and only one has had some issue when new but after aprox 250 rounds it seems to work fine. S&W has real good customer support so if you do have an issue Smith will fix it.

Never trust a new gun for carry shoot at leased 300 rounds threw it before you trust it I don't care who builds it!

Re: New S&W M&P 9mm Shield after 300 rounds [Re: gman2304] #4464252
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When I first bought my Glock 19, I ran WWB through it with multiple issues. Switched to most any-other brand and have not had a hiccup since! I refuse to buy WWB anymore, I don't trust it one bit.


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Re: New S&W M&P 9mm Shield after 300 rounds [Re: gman2304] #4464320
07/19/17 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted By: gman2304
The first 200 rounds were the Winchester white box FMJ 115 grain. I'm ready to ship this defective @#%^& back to S&W! Failing to eject, failing to fire, stovepipes, you name it! I tried 3 different magazines with the same results. This pistol is field stripped and cleaned after each range visit. My friend who owns the range and 2 of his employees said to send it back. It acted the same way when they fired it, and everybody critiqued the ones shooting..and no 'limp wristing' was going on, so I decided yesterday to send it back. But before I left the range, I decided to buy a box of Freedom munitions 9mm 115 grain reload bullets. It fired 50 rounds perfectly! I tried 50 rounds of Blazerbrass today with not a single hiccup. I guess this pistol just doesn't like the Winchester WB ammo. Has Winchester had some QC issues lately, because I had a problem with at least 1 bullet in almost every magazine I used.


Lots of pistols don't like the White Box. Always start-off new handguns with round nose FMJs and better-yet check out S&W Gun Forums to see what the model likes best, prior to your first ammo purchase.


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Re: New S&W M&P 9mm Shield after 300 rounds [Re: gman2304] #4464332
07/19/17 07:25 PM
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It should eat every type of ammunition period.If it that picky something is wrong. It may be that it was just a tight fit and it needed to wear in. My G42 chocked on every 3rd round I have gone through almost 2000 rounds without aj hickup, That includes 1000 rounds of TulAmo.

Shields have a great reputation. I had one and my son still does. Neither of them have had an issue. Go back to the other Ammo and if it chokes on that again send it back my 3 Glocks and Ruger LCP eat anything so should the Shield.

The Limp Wrist thing os over-rated IMHO. Has to be really bad to cause it to fail to eject.

Last edited by Al; 07/19/17 07:31 PM.

Re: New S&W M&P 9mm Shield after 300 rounds [Re: gman2304] #4464422
07/19/17 09:09 PM
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The only "Winchester White Box" ammo that you want is the NATO spec stuff with all black text. That ammo is consistent. The [censored] with the red text that you find at Walmart is not consistent at all.


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Re: New S&W M&P 9mm Shield after 300 rounds [Re: gman2304] #4464446
07/19/17 09:42 PM
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I have a Ruger P 95 I had to send back twice for proper repair. Finally they replaced the slide and It ran 4,000 rounds with out clean only lubing. I had to clean it because it was oozing crud and ruined 3 Tee shirts. crush It is a gun I love to hate. But it works well. [email protected] will fix it.


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Re: New S&W M&P 9mm Shield after 300 rounds [Re: gman2304] #4464470
07/19/17 10:15 PM
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I've been feeding mine Stand 1 FMJs and Underwood Ammo's HPs both XTP and Gold Dot with good results.
Best place for 10mm btw.


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Re: New S&W M&P 9mm Shield after 300 rounds [Re: gman2304] #4464726
07/20/17 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted By: gman2304
The first 200 rounds were the Winchester white box FMJ 115 grain. I'm ready to ship this defective @#%^& back to S&W! Failing to eject, failing to fire, stovepipes, you name it! I tried 3 different magazines with the same results. This pistol is field stripped and cleaned after each range visit. My friend who owns the range and 2 of his employees said to send it back. It acted the same way when they fired it, and everybody critiqued the ones shooting..and no 'limp wristing' was going on, so I decided yesterday to send it back. But before I left the range, I decided to buy a box of Freedom munitions 9mm 115 grain reload bullets. It fired 50 rounds perfectly! I tried 50 rounds of Blazerbrass today with not a single hiccup. I guess this pistol just doesn't like the Winchester WB ammo. Has Winchester had some QC issues lately, because I had a problem with at least 1 bullet in almost every magazine I used.


As they say, 'There's your problem!'

As far as Winchester's ammunition quality getting worse recently, I don't think that's correct. Winchester has been disappointing me for almost 30 years. After enough times getting burned you quit sticking your hand in the fire.

BSW

Re: New S&W M&P 9mm Shield after 300 rounds [Re: gman2304] #4464728
07/20/17 08:30 AM
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I too have had some issues with WWB. It is hit and miss because some I have had has been great (the good stuff was mostly .40 caliber for some reason).

For range ammo I really like PMC, Blazer Brass, Fed Eagle or even Freedom Munitions all of which is as cheap or cheaper and does not give me any problems.

If your Smith runs reliably on everything else I think you have your answer.


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