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[CUT OPEN] Motorcraft FL-820S - 6000 miles #4463287
07/18/17 08:38 PM
07/18/17 08:38 PM
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Nowthen, MN
KD0AXS Offline OP
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I know there have been some complaints with these so I figured I better do a C&P on it. Haven't been driving the truck much lately, so this was on for 2 years and about 6,000 miles. This is off my 2005 F-350 with the 5.4.

I've certainly seen better looking media, but there are no tears. Might consider switching to something else in the future, but I have a few more of these on hand so I'll use them up first.





Re: [CUT OPEN] Motorcraft FL-820S - 6000 miles [Re: KD0AXS] #4463291
07/18/17 08:43 PM
07/18/17 08:43 PM
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Clovis, CA
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I don't mean to be rude, but why are people still buying paper filters ? They're obsolete.

Wire backed synthetic media filters always have nice straight pleats.

Re: [CUT OPEN] Motorcraft FL-820S - 6000 miles [Re: KD0AXS] #4463294
07/18/17 08:46 PM
07/18/17 08:46 PM
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Jacksonville, FL
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Holy waves! That thing really got put through the ringer. Considering their propensity for tearing I think you dodged a bullet here. Maybe shorten the FCI for the remainder of the filters?


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Re: [CUT OPEN] Motorcraft FL-820S - 6000 miles [Re: Merkava_4] #4463302
07/18/17 08:51 PM
07/18/17 08:51 PM
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Canada
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Some people still buy ISLAC 10W30 weak sauce because they think it's thicker and more robust. It takes all kinds.

Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
I don't mean to be rude, but why are people still buying paper filters ? They're obsolete.

Wire backed synthetic media filters always have nice straight pleats.


2018 Ford F150 with 2.7 Ecoboost: Valvoline Full Synthetic 5W30 and Motorcraft FL2062
2016 Toyota RAV4: Pennzoil Platinum 0W20 and Toyota 04152-YZZA1

Re: [CUT OPEN] Motorcraft FL-820S - 6000 miles [Re: Merkava_4] #4463317
07/18/17 09:04 PM
07/18/17 09:04 PM
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Nowthen, MN
KD0AXS Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
I don't mean to be rude, but why are people still buying paper filters ? They're obsolete.

Wire backed synthetic media filters always have nice straight pleats.


Well, in my case they're not obsolete because they're what I have sitting on the shelf in my garage. Once I use them up, I may switch to something else but I'm not just going to throw them in the trash.

Re: [CUT OPEN] Motorcraft FL-820S - 6000 miles [Re: Merkava_4] #4463322
07/18/17 09:09 PM
07/18/17 09:09 PM
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Palmyra, PA
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Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
I don't mean to be rude, but why are people still buying paper filters ? They're obsolete.

Wire backed synthetic media filters always have nice straight pleats.


since my vehicle is under warranty I have to play the game of new oil & filter every 3k-4.5k miles so I buy filters built for that OCI range...


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Re: [CUT OPEN] Motorcraft FL-820S - 6000 miles [Re: KD0AXS] #4463339
07/18/17 09:21 PM
07/18/17 09:21 PM
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il usa
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I wud like to cut open one that i pulled off my expedition recently.
How difficult is this job. I have a manual hack saw smile


1988 Mazda RX7 na PP 10w30 Noack 4.7
1994 Chrysler Concorde 3.3
1999 Ford Expedition 4.6 QSUD 10W30 NOACK 5.0
Re: [CUT OPEN] Motorcraft FL-820S - 6000 miles [Re: KD0AXS] #4463357
07/18/17 09:33 PM
07/18/17 09:33 PM
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DELAWARE
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I had a 2005 F250 with the 5.4 and it was underwhelming to say the least. I could not imagine in a same year F350. I feel for you.


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Re: [CUT OPEN] Motorcraft FL-820S - 6000 miles [Re: merconvvv] #4463359
07/18/17 09:34 PM
07/18/17 09:34 PM
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Kansas
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Kansas
Originally Posted By: merconvvv
I wud like to cut open one that i pulled off my expedition recently.
How difficult is this job. I have a manual hack saw smile


A hack saw will work just fine, but will make the outer shell look pretty jagged.
I cut open a Purolator a few days ago with a good pair of tin snips. Start from the base plate and cut through the seam at about 45 degrees. Then just easily cut around the perimeter for a very neat cut and the whole filter just comes apart in the individual pieces. Now I have yet to try this on a heavy industrial filter, but the filter I took off my Jeep cut easily, took about 10 seconds and made a very neat cut. Again, I'll stress to use a GOOD pair of tin snips.

Re: [CUT OPEN] Motorcraft FL-820S - 6000 miles [Re: Hootbro] #4463373
07/18/17 09:46 PM
07/18/17 09:46 PM
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Nowthen, MN
KD0AXS Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: Hootbro
I had a 2005 F250 with the 5.4 and it was underwhelming to say the least. I could not imagine in a same year F350. I feel for you.


Honestly, I'm more than happy with it. Does everything I need it to do. I've towed ~10,000 lbs with it several times, gets the job done just fine. I don't understand why everyone thinks they need 500 HP in a pickup truck. It's not a race car.

Re: [CUT OPEN] Motorcraft FL-820S - 6000 miles [Re: Kruse] #4463379
07/18/17 09:53 PM
07/18/17 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted By: Kruse
Originally Posted By: merconvvv
I wud like to cut open one that i pulled off my expedition recently.
How difficult is this job. I have a manual hack saw smile


A hack saw will work just fine, but will make the outer shell look pretty jagged.
I cut open a Purolator a few days ago with a good pair of tin snips. Start from the base plate and cut through the seam at about 45 degrees. Then just easily cut around the perimeter for a very neat cut and the whole filter just comes apart in the individual pieces. Now I have yet to try this on a heavy industrial filter, but the filter I took off my Jeep cut easily, took about 10 seconds and made a very neat cut. Again, I'll stress to use a GOOD pair of tin snips.


Ten seconds wow you are pretty good. Thanks i will try this. I am quite curious to see what it looks like.
The expedition has 181k about so .


1988 Mazda RX7 na PP 10w30 Noack 4.7
1994 Chrysler Concorde 3.3
1999 Ford Expedition 4.6 QSUD 10W30 NOACK 5.0
Re: [CUT OPEN] Motorcraft FL-820S - 6000 miles [Re: KD0AXS] #4463413
07/18/17 10:32 PM
07/18/17 10:32 PM
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Waco, TX
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Originally Posted By: KD0AXS

Honestly, I'm more than happy with it. Does everything I need it to do. I've towed ~10,000 lbs with it several times, gets the job done just fine. I don't understand why everyone thinks they need 500 HP in a pickup truck. It's not a race car.


Same here.

I pull a 8,300 lb 5th wheel RV with a '08 F150 - 4.6

I won't win any drag races, but honestly, I've never complained about the power once. It does well in Texas July heat with the A/C on full blast. Doesn't seem to care, and actually gets better than 13 mpg while doing it.


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Re: [CUT OPEN] Motorcraft FL-820S - 6000 miles [Re: KD0AXS] #4463414
07/18/17 10:35 PM
07/18/17 10:35 PM
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MD
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Very ugly but not torn. On the outside those filters scream quality. But.....
Thanks for the pictures.

Re: [CUT OPEN] Mottorcraft FL-820S - 6000 miles [Re: AirgunSavant] #4463576
07/19/17 06:32 AM
07/19/17 06:32 AM
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Texas
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It did its job didn't it?
Who cares what it looks like inside,its an oil filter,not a Picasso.


2009 Galant-ultra oil and filter
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Smittys 5-30
Motorcraft filter
Re: [CUT OPEN] Motorcraft FL-820S - 6000 miles [Re: KD0AXS] #4463677
07/19/17 08:25 AM
07/19/17 08:25 AM
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Port Orange, Florida
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I also agree with liking the 5.4. I heard so much bad about them that I was reluctant to buy the truck with it in it.
Have to say I really like it.
I didn't even want to sell it to my daughter but I didn't want her to go out and pay top dollar for junk and I didn't need it because I have the Dodge. Impressed me though.
Maybe I got a good one.



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