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#4462418 - 07/18/17 12:57 AM Best civic brake pads from RA?
HKPolice Offline


Registered: 03/31/12
Posts: 510
Loc: Toronto, Canada
Need new front pads for GF's 09 Civic DX sedan, the factory pair only lasted about 45k KM (28K miles) and the replacement set were wagner thermoquiets that had a similar longevity. Hoping to find something that can last for at least 60K KM.

I've heard great things about Akebono but AFAIK, their ProACT set is what Honda sells as OEM parts which weren't impressive.... Can anyone confirm/deny?

Advics also has a good rep but ideally I'd like to get a pair of GG friction rated pads instead of the standard FF rating and I'm 99% sure the Advics are FF since they follow OEM specs.

Does anyone know of a confirmed GG friction pads for the 8th Civic for sale on rockauto? https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/hond...,brake+pad,1684

Thanks in advance!

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#4462423 - 07/18/17 01:02 AM Re: Best civic brake pads from RA? [Re: HKPolice]
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EBC Ultimax2, but it's not available through RockAuto. You can get it from Summit Racing.
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#4462427 - 07/18/17 01:16 AM Re: Best civic brake pads from RA? [Re: HKPolice]
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Registered: 08/30/04
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If the factory-installed pads only lasted 28K, the service replacements should last at least twice as long. Honda revised the compound for the Gen 8 Civic. I have a customer with a 2010 that went 30-40k on the originals; the most recent pair of service replacements pads from the dealer have 8mm left after 15K miles.
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#4462430 - 07/18/17 01:19 AM Re: Best civic brake pads from RA? [Re: The Critic]
HKPolice Offline


Registered: 03/31/12
Posts: 510
Loc: Toronto, Canada
Originally Posted By: The Critic
If the factory-installed pads only lasted 28K, the service replacements should last at least twice as long. Honda revised the compound for the Gen 8 Civic. I have a customer with a 2010 that went 30-40k on the originals; the most recent pair of service replacements pads from the dealer have 8mm left after 15K miles.


Do you know if they're FF or GG rated? Who makes the current OEM pads? Made in Japan I assume?

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#4462444 - 07/18/17 02:36 AM Re: Best civic brake pads from RA? [Re: HKPolice]
The Critic Offline


Registered: 08/30/04
Posts: 19802
Loc: CA
Originally Posted By: HKPolice
Originally Posted By: The Critic
If the factory-installed pads only lasted 28K, the service replacements should last at least twice as long. Honda revised the compound for the Gen 8 Civic. I have a customer with a 2010 that went 30-40k on the originals; the most recent pair of service replacements pads from the dealer have 8mm left after 15K miles.


Do you know if they're FF or GG rated? Who makes the current OEM pads? Made in Japan I assume?


The ones I got were FF and were by Akebono. But the friction formula (the five digit code that is stamped) is different than the one on the ProACT pads.

The FF vs GG debate is way overrated. There are many other factors that can affect the performance of the friction material. The material's compressibility, the number of slots, the type of chamfers, etc. Also, the friction codes only indicate ranges.
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#4462477 - 07/18/17 05:41 AM Re: Best civic brake pads from RA? [Re: HKPolice]
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Registered: 05/25/05
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I have a buddy that swears by RAYBESTOS "Professional Grade Ceramic" for his Honda's. Good bite and long(er) wear.
I too have had good success with RAYBESTOS but, I used the RAYBESTOS "Service Grade Ceramic" on my Nissan's. Also good bite and long wear.
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#4462485 - 07/18/17 06:15 AM Re: Best civic brake pads from RA? [Re: HKPolice]
Tman220 Offline


Registered: 09/20/16
Posts: 144
Loc: MN
Originally Posted By: HKPolice


Does anyone know of a confirmed GG friction pads for the 8th Civic for sale on rockauto? https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/hond...,brake+pad,1684

Thanks in advance!


The Raybestos EHT (enhanced hybrid technology) are usually GG rated and are available pretty cheap. Although I haven't heard much about them. You should try them and let us know smile I plan to try them on my next brake job.
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#4462491 - 07/18/17 06:30 AM Re: Best civic brake pads from RA? [Re: The Critic]
NoNameJoe Offline


Registered: 06/03/15
Posts: 414
Loc: New York
Originally Posted By: The Critic
If the factory-installed pads only lasted 28K, the service replacements should last at least twice as long. Honda revised the compound for the Gen 8 Civic. I have a customer with a 2010 that went 30-40k on the originals; the most recent pair of service replacements pads from the dealer have 8mm left after 15K miles.

When did they do this? Why did they do this? Sorry not trying to say you're a liar or anything, I'm just wondering what this is about since I haven't heard of this. How does one know if they got a revised compound?

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#4462530 - 07/18/17 07:15 AM Re: Best civic brake pads from RA? [Re: HKPolice]
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Registered: 11/30/09
Posts: 1052
Loc: Warner Robins, GA
I'll chime in with my standard "Wagner Thermoquiet ceramic pads for all things" comment.
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#4462587 - 07/18/17 08:30 AM Re: Best civic brake pads from RA? [Re: HKPolice]
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Registered: 03/21/04
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Loc: Upstate NY
get Akebono ProAct ceramic and forget the FF vs GG argument.
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#4462589 - 07/18/17 08:31 AM Re: Best civic brake pads from RA? [Re: NoNameJoe]
The Critic Offline


Registered: 08/30/04
Posts: 19802
Loc: CA
Originally Posted By: NoNameJoe
Originally Posted By: The Critic
If the factory-installed pads only lasted 28K, the service replacements should last at least twice as long. Honda revised the compound for the Gen 8 Civic. I have a customer with a 2010 that went 30-40k on the originals; the most recent pair of service replacements pads from the dealer have 8mm left after 15K miles.

When did they do this? Why did they do this? Sorry not trying to say you're a liar or anything, I'm just wondering what this is about since I haven't heard of this. How does one know if they got a revised compound?


I no longer have a copy of the TSB, but if you want it subscribe to alldatadiy, you can obtain a copy of it.

https://www.alldatadiy.com/TSB/24/092402bb.html

SN-12-07-04 "Brakes - Replacement Brake Pad Information"
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#4462709 - 07/18/17 10:33 AM Re: Best civic brake pads from RA? [Re: HKPolice]
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Registered: 04/13/13
Posts: 2229
Loc: The Northeast
Another vote for Akebono. Being in Canada, you definitely want to make sure everything is lubed up and not sticking.

What's you GF's driving style? Jack-rabbit or city driving takes a toll on brakes.
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#4462753 - 07/18/17 11:24 AM Re: Best civic brake pads from RA? [Re: Falcon_LS]
HerrStig Offline


Registered: 08/24/11
Posts: 9560
Loc: Boston, MA
Originally Posted By: Falcon_LS
EBC Ultimax2, but it's not available through RockAuto. You can get it from Summit Racing.
AMAZON carries some EBC.

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#4462811 - 07/18/17 12:32 PM Re: Best civic brake pads from RA? [Re: Char Baby]
BrewCityR Offline


Registered: 09/13/02
Posts: 365
Loc: Slinger, Wisconsin
Originally Posted By: Char Baby
I have a buddy that swears by RAYBESTOS "Professional Grade Ceramic" for his Honda's. Good bite and long(er) wear.
I too have had good success with RAYBESTOS but, I used the RAYBESTOS "Service Grade Ceramic" on my Nissan's. Also good bite and long wear.


Good info, thank you! Plan to try a set of Raybestos Service Grade Ceramics for my wife's CX-9.
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#4462815 - 07/18/17 12:35 PM Re: Best civic brake pads from RA? [Re: BrewCityR]
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Registered: 09/20/14
Posts: 1351
Loc: Seattle-ish, WA
Originally Posted By: BrewCityR
Originally Posted By: Char Baby
I have a buddy that swears by RAYBESTOS "Professional Grade Ceramic" for his Honda's. Good bite and long(er) wear.
I too have had good success with RAYBESTOS but, I used the RAYBESTOS "Service Grade Ceramic" on my Nissan's. Also good bite and long wear.


Good info, thank you! Plan to try a set of Raybestos Service Grade Ceramics for my wife's CX-9.


I use these, too. PGD ceramic or SGD ceramic, both work well.

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