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Best civic brake pads from RA? #4462418
07/17/17 11:57 PM
07/17/17 11:57 PM
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Toronto, Canada
HKPolice Offline OP
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Need new front pads for GF's 09 Civic DX sedan, the factory pair only lasted about 45k KM (28K miles) and the replacement set were wagner thermoquiets that had a similar longevity. Hoping to find something that can last for at least 60K KM.

I've heard great things about Akebono but AFAIK, their ProACT set is what Honda sells as OEM parts which weren't impressive.... Can anyone confirm/deny?

Advics also has a good rep but ideally I'd like to get a pair of GG friction rated pads instead of the standard FF rating and I'm 99% sure the Advics are FF since they follow OEM specs.

Does anyone know of a confirmed GG friction pads for the 8th Civic for sale on rockauto? https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/hond...,brake+pad,1684

Thanks in advance!

Re: Best civic brake pads from RA? [Re: HKPolice] #4462423
07/18/17 12:02 AM
07/18/17 12:02 AM
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Kuwait
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EBC Ultimax2, but it's not available through RockAuto. You can get it from Summit Racing.


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Re: Best civic brake pads from RA? [Re: HKPolice] #4462427
07/18/17 12:16 AM
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If the factory-installed pads only lasted 28K, the service replacements should last at least twice as long. Honda revised the compound for the Gen 8 Civic. I have a customer with a 2010 that went 30-40k on the originals; the most recent pair of service replacements pads from the dealer have 8mm left after 15K miles.


2011 Toyota Prius - 178k - Various 0W-20 (Brew)
2007 Honda Accord 2.4 - 133K - Mobil 1 EP HM 5W-30
Re: Best civic brake pads from RA? [Re: The Critic] #4462430
07/18/17 12:19 AM
07/18/17 12:19 AM
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Toronto, Canada
HKPolice Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: The Critic
If the factory-installed pads only lasted 28K, the service replacements should last at least twice as long. Honda revised the compound for the Gen 8 Civic. I have a customer with a 2010 that went 30-40k on the originals; the most recent pair of service replacements pads from the dealer have 8mm left after 15K miles.


Do you know if they're FF or GG rated? Who makes the current OEM pads? Made in Japan I assume?

Re: Best civic brake pads from RA? [Re: HKPolice] #4462444
07/18/17 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted By: HKPolice
Originally Posted By: The Critic
If the factory-installed pads only lasted 28K, the service replacements should last at least twice as long. Honda revised the compound for the Gen 8 Civic. I have a customer with a 2010 that went 30-40k on the originals; the most recent pair of service replacements pads from the dealer have 8mm left after 15K miles.


Do you know if they're FF or GG rated? Who makes the current OEM pads? Made in Japan I assume?


The ones I got were FF and were by Akebono. But the friction formula (the five digit code that is stamped) is different than the one on the ProACT pads.

The FF vs GG debate is way overrated. There are many other factors that can affect the performance of the friction material. The material's compressibility, the number of slots, the type of chamfers, etc. Also, the friction codes only indicate ranges.


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Re: Best civic brake pads from RA? [Re: HKPolice] #4462477
07/18/17 04:41 AM
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ROCHESTER, NY
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I have a buddy that swears by RAYBESTOS "Professional Grade Ceramic" for his Honda's. Good bite and long(er) wear.
I too have had good success with RAYBESTOS but, I used the RAYBESTOS "Service Grade Ceramic" on my Nissan's. Also good bite and long wear.


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Re: Best civic brake pads from RA? [Re: HKPolice] #4462485
07/18/17 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted By: HKPolice


Does anyone know of a confirmed GG friction pads for the 8th Civic for sale on rockauto? https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/hond...,brake+pad,1684

Thanks in advance!


The Raybestos EHT (enhanced hybrid technology) are usually GG rated and are available pretty cheap. Although I haven't heard much about them. You should try them and let us know smile I plan to try them on my next brake job.


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Re: Best civic brake pads from RA? [Re: The Critic] #4462491
07/18/17 05:30 AM
07/18/17 05:30 AM
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New York
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Originally Posted By: The Critic
If the factory-installed pads only lasted 28K, the service replacements should last at least twice as long. Honda revised the compound for the Gen 8 Civic. I have a customer with a 2010 that went 30-40k on the originals; the most recent pair of service replacements pads from the dealer have 8mm left after 15K miles.

When did they do this? Why did they do this? Sorry not trying to say you're a liar or anything, I'm just wondering what this is about since I haven't heard of this. How does one know if they got a revised compound?


2015 Civic LX Coupe
Re: Best civic brake pads from RA? [Re: HKPolice] #4462530
07/18/17 06:15 AM
07/18/17 06:15 AM
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Warner Robins, GA
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I'll chime in with my standard "Wagner Thermoquiet ceramic pads for all things" comment.


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Re: Best civic brake pads from RA? [Re: HKPolice] #4462587
07/18/17 07:30 AM
07/18/17 07:30 AM
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Upstate NY
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get Akebono ProAct ceramic and forget the FF vs GG argument.


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Re: Best civic brake pads from RA? [Re: NoNameJoe] #4462589
07/18/17 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted By: NoNameJoe
Originally Posted By: The Critic
If the factory-installed pads only lasted 28K, the service replacements should last at least twice as long. Honda revised the compound for the Gen 8 Civic. I have a customer with a 2010 that went 30-40k on the originals; the most recent pair of service replacements pads from the dealer have 8mm left after 15K miles.

When did they do this? Why did they do this? Sorry not trying to say you're a liar or anything, I'm just wondering what this is about since I haven't heard of this. How does one know if they got a revised compound?


I no longer have a copy of the TSB, but if you want it subscribe to alldatadiy, you can obtain a copy of it.

https://www.alldatadiy.com/TSB/24/092402bb.html

SN-12-07-04 "Brakes - Replacement Brake Pad Information"


2011 Toyota Prius - 178k - Various 0W-20 (Brew)
2007 Honda Accord 2.4 - 133K - Mobil 1 EP HM 5W-30
Re: Best civic brake pads from RA? [Re: HKPolice] #4462709
07/18/17 09:33 AM
07/18/17 09:33 AM
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The Northeast
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Another vote for Akebono. Being in Canada, you definitely want to make sure everything is lubed up and not sticking.

What's you GF's driving style? Jack-rabbit or city driving takes a toll on brakes.


2018 Hyundai Elantra VE -- 6K
2013 Honda Pilot EX-L 4WD -- 57K
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Re: Best civic brake pads from RA? [Re: Falcon_LS] #4462753
07/18/17 10:24 AM
07/18/17 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted By: Falcon_LS
EBC Ultimax2, but it's not available through RockAuto. You can get it from Summit Racing.
AMAZON carries some EBC.

Re: Best civic brake pads from RA? [Re: Char Baby] #4462811
07/18/17 11:32 AM
07/18/17 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted By: Char Baby
I have a buddy that swears by RAYBESTOS "Professional Grade Ceramic" for his Honda's. Good bite and long(er) wear.
I too have had good success with RAYBESTOS but, I used the RAYBESTOS "Service Grade Ceramic" on my Nissan's. Also good bite and long wear.


Good info, thank you! Plan to try a set of Raybestos Service Grade Ceramics for my wife's CX-9.


2006 Infiniti M45 Sport (me) - Castrol Edge 0w40 - Fram FPS7317

2016 Mazda CX-5 AWD Grand Touring (wife) - Castrol Edge 0w20 - Premium Guard PG4612EX
Re: Best civic brake pads from RA? [Re: BrewCityR] #4462815
07/18/17 11:35 AM
07/18/17 11:35 AM
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Seattle-ish, WA
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Originally Posted By: BrewCityR
Originally Posted By: Char Baby
I have a buddy that swears by RAYBESTOS "Professional Grade Ceramic" for his Honda's. Good bite and long(er) wear.
I too have had good success with RAYBESTOS but, I used the RAYBESTOS "Service Grade Ceramic" on my Nissan's. Also good bite and long wear.


Good info, thank you! Plan to try a set of Raybestos Service Grade Ceramics for my wife's CX-9.


I use these, too. PGD ceramic or SGD ceramic, both work well.

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